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what lbs makes it a warbow insted of a longbow

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triton:

--- Quote from: ratty on March 02, 2009, 09:10:40 am ---a longbow that bends through the handle and is not a victorian stiff in the handle longbow i would refure to as a medieval longbow.

if i was going to war with a medieval longbow i would want a bow over 120lb to shoot a heavy shaft 70g a good distance and to penetrate armour.

80lb to 100lb is a good practice weight to strengthen your body. but i would honestly say with the correct technique any ADULT could shoot a 100lb bow.

to denote the difference between a victorian traditional longbow and a heavy weight medieval longbow the name warbow is used to stop confusion and i think it does the job well. :)

ps. obviously a laminate is not a medieval longbow only self bows but they are good for practice never the less ;)

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So far I'd say this is the best offering.  mainly cus I was thinking about a reply while making shavings in the workshop this arvo and it's about what I was going to say  ;D

JackCrafty:
What caliber makes a bullet a weapon of war?

I think we need a defintion on the type of warfare we are taking about.  IMO, most people see a warbow as a weapon that acts like artillery....and is capable of long range shooting.  A heavy draw weight is essential, of course, but we must define what distance is required first.  Perhaps any bow that shoots a 700+ grain arrow 200+ yards would be a warbow?  Just a thought.

Yeomanbowman:

--- Quote from: nickf on March 02, 2009, 10:53:47 am ---warbow isn't a single type, it's a bunch of different types; laminated, selfbow, backed. And all of these make ENGLISH warbows.

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Why is this subject to negotiation ???  We all know medieval warbows (name semantics aside) were selfbows regardless of wood type.  It really is a simple as that.

nickf:
well, if the old english had boo and ipe, they'd use it for sure.
please remember those old lads had no bandsaws either, nor ebay for buying staves, cars for driving them.

I think laminated english warbows are still warbows... right?

well, me being a just-16year old kid, I'm more than happy with 90#-110#, and boo backed bows... They're more than enough warbow for me ;)

just a total off-thread question:
I noticed drawing a heavy bow to 30"+ goes very slow, takes at least some seconds,
so for today's urban warfare I'd prefer a 50#-70#@28", 56"-66" ntn bow...

what about you guys?


triton:

--- Quote from: Yeomanbowman on March 02, 2009, 05:44:51 pm ---
--- Quote from: nickf on March 02, 2009, 10:53:47 am ---warbow isn't a single type, it's a bunch of different types; laminated, selfbow, backed. And all of these make ENGLISH warbows.

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Why is this subject to negotiation ???  We all know medieval warbows (name semantics aside) were selfbows regardless of wood type.  It really is a simple as that.

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+1
I'll second that

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