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nick1346:
Hi Rod,
It would aid clarity if you used the quote box correctly, instead of using italics which are just about impossible to decipher on my computer :D
I hate to tell you this but I do understand what constitutes a good loose and what constitutes a poor one, like most archers I can even tell you if someone loosed well or poorly by the sound it makes alone.
I agree almost entirely with your saying and as I stated before the rolling loose aids the loose rather than impart blistering kinetic energy to the arrow. If you watch the video of Mark you'll see how he moves before he shoots and how his upper body moves in the direction of the arrows final path. You'll also notice how the arrow gains even more draw length becuase of it.
As with the slashing loose this technique is also easy to mess up or should I rather say the converse, it is hard to master but once mastered it does work. At some point in the future I'll hopefully be filming a multi camera angle of this sequence and the slashing loose which would be interesting and not in a negative way!
So we are basically in agreement then?
Nick
nick1346:
--- Quote from: Marc St Louis on April 28, 2009, 09:53:05 am ---I have seen a number of videos of some heavy bow archers shooting their bows, I'm not talking amateurs here but the regular guys. Most of those videos clearly show the archer pulling the bow back to full draw and just before they let loose back off from full draw a couple inches at least. I may not shoot heavy bows but I know that is not good for distance. Would that be classified as a rolling loose? :)
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No Marc that would be a poor loose :D
Did you watch the video of second video of Mark I put up? You'll see in that one that his draw length actually increases, now that's called a rolling loose ;)
Yewboy:
--- Quote from: Marc St Louis on April 28, 2009, 09:53:05 am ---I have seen a number of videos of some heavy bow archers shooting their bows, I'm not talking amateurs here but the regular guys. Most of those videos clearly show the archer pulling the bow back to full draw and just before they let loose back off from full draw a couple inches at least. I may not shoot heavy bows but I know that is not good for distance. Would that be classified as a rolling loose? :)
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Well Marc, that may be so but I'm sure you cannot be talking about the people on the list I used as they have all established themselves with shooting big distances and have records to prove or won national competitions, maybe the people you have seen are not on top of their draw weights! Oh and no that is not a rolling loose, that is as Nick states a bad loose.
Yewboy
Dane:
Does anyone actually know what kind of loose was used in medieval combat archery? Is there some period documetation that describes the various releases, or is it conjecture and logic and experimentation that has developed these different kinds of slashing and rolling releases?
The question is a serious one, not to cause strife or anything. Oh, did things change by the Tutor period, or was it the same as the 14th century way of bow shooting?
Dane
Marc St Louis:
As I said these were not amateurs. I was going to put names down but on second thought decided not to.
Having done some flight shooting I know for a fact that a slashing loose when well done will get the distance. Holding any wood bow at full draw regardless of draw weight will cut down distance and anyone that says otherwise does not know his wood as well as he thinks he does.
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