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Crossbows outrange Longbows?
kiwijim:
jaro, as I said,
read my points or my posts, all of which you seem to skirt around.
I would have thought the simple maths I provided earlier would have proven, beyond doubt, my point about span weight achievable by cocking mechanisms. The numbers you quoted about what the average man can span are, really, a bit silly. You sound a bit like a Victorian historian talking about draw weight s of the english war bow.
Also, If you object to being patronised, then dont accuse someone of ficton straight-up, espeacially when you can't prove it.
You see, I build and shoot working heavy crossbows, and quite simply , I object to reinactors or academics telling me what I am and am not capable of.
However, if you want a scrap, why dont you email me personally. or even better drop in for a drink.
Regards
james
bow-toxo:
--- Quote from: kiwijim on June 10, 2009, 12:38:11 am ---look on the 'projects' page
--- End quote ---
I was describing the projects page. The only mediaeval thing there was the description of mediaeval bolts.
kiwijim:
Dont get distracted by all the other stuff on the site, The only reason I provided the link was to show a 500lb plus crossbow that was loaded with a goats foot. As I said before I am happy to conceed that those crossbows are not medieval.
regards
JAmes
bow-toxo:
[quote author=Jaro link=topic=12247.msg187577#msg187577 date=124479
Note on goat lever - I have trouble of finding them in some numbers in medieval sources. Its either hook or hook with pulley, or later a cranequin. There is english windlass crank, but that is it and not very common in western or mid europe or on continent anyway. The goat lever is something I associate with swiss or continental sporting crossbow of 17. century and there is very little of them. Should goat lever be used on lighter meditearean types of crossbows, such as used in Italy - it was wood, and there we are back where we were, not as strong as you wildly imagine.
Jaro
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A further note on goat's foot or 'gaffle' lever in Elizabethan times. Smythe, in whose time old men could remember the use of crossbows and longbows on horseback, recommended the use of "crossbowyers on horseback, under sufficient conductors well skilled in that weapon. I would they should have crossbows of two pound and a half of the best sort, with crooked gaffles hanging at their strong girdles after the manner of Germans, that they might on horseback bend their crossbows the more easily and readily, with four-and-twenty quarrels in a case well and fitly set at their saddle pommels". These gaffles were the easiest way for a mounted man to cock a crossbow.
Ahnlaashock:
First snooty BS I have seen on this board, and like usual, from people that should know better! Behave yourselves in public!
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