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Muina:
Hey guys. I just made some footed arrows with Ipe footings on Ash shafts (just to try it out) and the Ipe's started to lift off the Ash. I had the same problem when I was using it for bows but I don't want to use the expensive resorcinol glue just for arrows.

The only other dark hardwoods I can easily get hold of are:

Utile Sipo (a really light (weight) and brittle mahogany)
Sapele (almost exactly the same as Utile)
Black Walnut (apparently very similar to Cherry)

Now I've seen quite a lot of people using walnut as arrow footings, and it's always a dark walnut. I know the normal Walnut colour here in England is a very light, almost Birchy colour.

So I suppose the question I'm asking is this:

Is the black walnut the same thing I've seen so many others using or is it a different type of Walnut altogether?

Thanks so much for any help.

Muina

madcrow:
I had some english walnut that was about the same color as birch.  The black walnut I use has really dark heartwood and the sapwood has more of a grey tinit to it.

Hillbilly:
Yeah, the black walnut is a different species from English walnut. It is similar to ipe in color, but not as heavy.

mullet:
  Have you tried to degrease your Ipe? Wash it in dish detergent or wipe it down with acetone, alcohol or something similar. I've never had a problem gluing it with TB3 or Epoxy.

Muina:
I let the Ipe stand in a cup of methylated spirits for around 5 minutes for each footing so I don't know what went wrong. One of the footings did hold up but I'm a little scared to use it in case the footing suddenly comes off and into my hand or something.

I'll get some of this Black Walnut in that case, it is really expensive but I suppose you're getting hundreds of footings from each board (the smallest size I can get it in is 1"x4"x8'!).

Thanks so much for all your help

Muina

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