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alanesq:
hi,

thats not the pic I was thinking of - its the one on the back of Richard Wadge's Arrowstorm - but its a good one - cant really see any detail of the actual nock but great detail in the string loop

I understand from at least 2 people that a loop can be used with sidenocks although I have not managed to do it myself yet
so the loop doesnt prove its not a sidenock although it does at least suggest I am wrong to be using a noose if it is?

When I finally get round to making my next bow with better size nocks I will give it another try

burn em up chuck:
  spot on ! sweet. love that profile.

                                              chuck

Yeomanbowman:
Alan,
You may want to exercise a little caution with a loop and side-nocks.  I'm not saying it cannot be done but Joe Gibbs related a salutary tale to me about the time he tried it and it pulled the limb to one side and as a result tore it clean off :o

What about double-side nocks and a loop akin to the nocks on a selfbow?  However, to me you would not gain the advantage of the spreading of pressure and, if cut-through to the wood cone, the ability to hold the horn on with a noose/bowyers knot.

Sorry for digressing from Marc's lovely bow! 

bow-toxo:
      We have more than enough information from Tudor sources to be convinced that their bow strings as well as Viking strings used with self side nocks were tied at the bottom and had a loop at the top. No surprise that the painting clearly shows one.  However the Luttrell Psalter picture of archers at the butts shows what appears to be a double loop string. I have used self and horn side nocks exclusively for thirty five years and am trying to imagine how using a loop with side nocks could cause a limb to tear off. I am also trying to imagine a combat archer trying to replace a bowstring tied at both nocks with bowyers knots. LOL

                                                                                                               Cheers,
                                                                                                                  Erik

alanesq:
I have used a sidenocked 120lb bow with bowyers knot at both ends and it can be done once you figure out the technique - the only problem I found was that as the knot at the top can move so you find that every time you adjust it the nocking point on the bowstring has moved

I too can't see why/how a loop would cause a limb to be pulled sideways?   maybe it was the nock came away from the bow or something?
its a good point though that without a noose the idea of the string holding the nock in place is brought into question.  although when braced I guess there is still going to be a lot of pressure on the string so it may still work?

I have tried using a small loop instead of a noose a couple of times but couldnt get it to work but I have since found out that my nocks are way too big so this may be why
it may also be my poor string making skills?

btw - sorry Marc St Louis for going off subject on your thread - maybe an admin might want to move the sidenocks posts to a new thread?

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