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Jaro:
Del - since we dont know what weight is your "regular" arrow for field shooting we cannot make any assumptions, but if it is built on 11/32" shaft, it wont be likelly over 500 grain.
To enlighten you, this guy claims to shoot an arrow, which is heavier than BLBS Standard (60 gram - more like livery) 250 yards with a bow of 75#. Minute look at results of batsford flight shot and "Standard" shows that only 4 people, arguably of the best english heavy archers shot that distance with bow 130# and 140# respectivelly. Even though I would gladly cut him some slack for less fletch on his arrows than standard prescribes, one doesnt need to be bloodhound to smell bullshit.
He is basically claiming that his 75# bow is shooting 185-190 fps with 13 grain/pound, I hope you can see the nonsense.
Having seen shoot some of the better longbowmen at hand, with bows of this weight in very good yew bests of Boyton made I can safelly claim that the bow is either not 75# or his arrow is at least one third lighter than he claims (and even so 250 yards will be rather nice) or they didnt measured the distance correctly.
J.
adb:
I think a lot of people tend to over estimate distance. I know I have. You look across a field and see a deer, and you think "holy cow, that thing is at least 300 yards away", but when you pace it off, it's more like 200 yards. I think this could possibly be the case, if the shooter was just "eye-balling" the distance. 250 yards with 60+ gram arrows and a 75# bow seems unlikely.
Del the cat:
--- Quote from: Jaro on December 21, 2009, 09:22:53 am ---Del - since we dont know what weight is your "regular" arrow for field shooting we cannot make any assumptions, but if it is built on 11/32" shaft, it wont be likelly over 500 grain.
To enlighten you, this guy claims to shoot an arrow, which is heavier than BLBS Standard (60 gram - more like livery) 250 yards with a bow of 75#. Minute look at results of batsford flight shot and "Standard" shows that only 4 people, arguably of the best english heavy archers shot that distance with bow 130# and 140# respectivelly. Even though I would gladly cut him some slack for less fletch on his arrows than standard prescribes, one doesnt need to be bloodhound to smell bullshit.
He is basically claiming that his 75# bow is shooting 185-190 fps with 13 grain/pound, I hope you can see the nonsense.
Having seen shoot some of the better longbowmen at hand, with bows of this weight in very good yew bests of Boyton made I can safelly claim that the bow is either not 75# or his arrow is at least one third lighter than he claims (and even so 250 yards will be rather nice) or they didnt measured the distance correctly.
J.
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Maybe there is simply some grain/gram confusion going on here... ? I dunno, it just would seem daft to be shooting such a heavy arrow from a 75 pound bow. (I shalln't insult your intelligence by rambling on about matching arrow weight to bow power)
Del
Davepim:
--- Quote from: adb on December 21, 2009, 01:21:04 pm ---I think a lot of people tend to over estimate distance. I know I have. You look across a field and see a deer, and you think "holy cow, that thing is at least 300 yards away", but when you pace it off, it's more like 200 yards. I think this could possibly be the case, if the shooter was just "eye-balling" the distance. 250 yards with 60+ gram arrows and a 75# bow seems unlikely.
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adb,
Humans are very poor at putting numbers to distances; tests done time and time again show that even for short distances, people are 10-20% out in their estimation. This is why the target archery community have such trouble over field courses, (of the FITA variety) even though there are only 4 different sizes of targets, and have to resort to "cheating" by using euclidean geometry to measure the distances. Instinctive archers invariably have the advantage here.
Dave
adb:
I agree. 8)
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