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Yeomanbowman:
--- Quote from: Yewboy on October 04, 2009, 07:45:55 am ---he is not actually physically leaping forward, this is a result of shooting a heavy bow in this case Glen is shooting a bow nearly 130lb and he is putting so much into the distance shot that this is the result, he could not force himself to stop this movement, he also knows how to shoot distance as he was the record holder for shooting the EWBS Livery arrow furthest untill only a couple of weeks ago.
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Glen shot a fine shot at Batsford this year and was the well deserved winner of the Livery with his super fast Italian yew bow. However, this was never the record distance. It is, and remains, 272 yards and was shot by Al at the Welsh Borders shoot on the 1st February this year with his self yew bow.
Results here...
http://www.englishwarbowsociety.com/welshbordersshoot.html
Del the cat:
he is not actually physically leaping forward, this is a result of shooting a heavy bow in this case Glen is shooting a bow nearly 130lb and he is putting so much into the distance shot that this is the result, he could not force himself to stop this movement, he also knows how to shoot distance as he was the record holder for shooting the EWBS Livery arrow furthest untill only a couple of weeks ago.
I did say it was just my opinion...however Sir Isac Newton would probably agree with me too, action and reaction are equal and opposite.
Think about it...the bow limbs, string and arrow are all going forward...guess which way the reaction will be?
I'm not saying he's not a great archer, distance shot or anything else...we all have our own stlye, just giving my personal view... I have no axe to grid. But if you want to argue it over a pint sometime I'd be more than happy.
Actually... just look at the video again... in the first shot there is no 'leap forward' at all and again at 2:41a higher trajectory shot (this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_dX3sFrFM ),
Quad erat demonstrandum.
Del
Davepim:
The same guys who use this "leaping forward" technique say they get better distance than when they don't use it; if this isn't an indication that the technique works, I don't know what is. This is a subject that has been covered before on the forum, in a different thread.
Dave
Rod:
--- Quote from: TBod on October 03, 2009, 07:05:43 am ---Del the cat and Rod.
Is it this draw your talking about. Looks really efficient and natural in some way. How about using it on lower weight Bows. I'm a beginner at shooting and was thinking of giving at try.
Look at 2.40 in the vid. I especially like that draw.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vQ_dX3sFrFM
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What I notice in this video more than anything is looking at the the three blokes shooting together.
I notice that Steve is "sitting" slightly as he comes to full draw which is something I do myself in certain situations, and interestingly enough, a technique espoused by some Oriental teaching on handling a war bow.
No doubt influenced by horseback archery usage, but applied in some schools of archery on foot.
But what I notice more than anything is who makes the least fuss and display of effort.
To me this is a sign of control always assuming that the arrow consistently confirms this view.
Not to say that someone with a more fussy, less economic style could not be as accurate, but in the long run, I think it less likely.
If we look at the draw of Ratty that features on his posts, we will see that he draws with his wrist bent.
Not the worst or most blatant example, but he retains a little of this right up to his loose.
This is a sure indicator of slightly too much use of the hand, too little use of the back and not quite achieving full extension and a straight line of force.
Not an extreme examople, admittedly, and it does not imply that he does not have control, just that he is doing more work than he needs to and doing that work in a slightly less efficient manner.
And giving up some draw length.
Rod.
Rod:
--- Quote from: Yewboy on October 04, 2009, 07:47:33 am ---
--- Quote from: TBod on October 04, 2009, 04:41:49 am ---Ok thanks! Del
This guy is basically doing the same thing as I see it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YtTyOf8OCKg
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the guy in this vid is Kevin Hicks and the he is primarily a target archer and a very good one, just look at the difference inthe draw length, Glen behind his ear and Kevin to the Jaw line, that is quite a big difference.
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"Primarily a target archer and a very good one" ?
He is looking at the gold shape and hitting around the perimeter of it instead of looking at the center and hitting the centre.
But what you say about the draw length is true enough...
Rod.
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