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boo:
Man, what did i miss ??? ??? can someone explain what is going on here? Did DanaM get banned? 

Justin Snyder:

--- Quote from: kyleM on October 25, 2009, 11:12:09 pm ---You are not the starter of the Xmas Trade, and i find it not fair at all, for you to take what my dad started and turn it into your own thing.

--- End quote ---

Kyle, your post is about as silly as it could get. Newsflash, Xmas Trade has been around for a long time. Yes your dad decided to bring it up here a couple of years ago, but he doesn't own it. My wife has been doing it in 3rd grade for years. In fact, I did it when I was in 3rd grade as did my dad some 60 years ago. The fact is that someone else brought it up this year and your dad said he didn't think he wanted to bother because last year was so bad.


--- Quote from: DanaM on October 16, 2009, 08:07:22 am ---
As for another Christmas Trade I have mixed feelings as every year I end up holding the bag when someone doesn't come through
with their gift. I feel that its my show and if someone doesn't come through then its up to me to send a gift out. Now I understand
that sh#@ happens but its still your responsibility short of death to make good on your gift. Let me think on it for a day or so eh.


--- End quote ---
A lot of people stepped up and supplied gifts last year when the ball was dropped. I know at least 5 gifts were sent by moderators. Because of this, PA decided to take care of it another way when your dad said he didn't know if he wanted to even participate. Yes your dad decided to get back in, yes he was offended when PA told him their plans. But when he decided to attack PA and started a campaign of personal attacks on Marie and Sarah in posts, emails and Pm's he went to far. Everyone knows we wont tolerate personal attacks on ANYONE around here. Your dad is a great guy and a friend to many on this site. But that does not mean that the rules apply any less to him than anyone else. He has called me many times demanding that I ban someone for less, well he insisted on stamping his feet and throwing a tantrum and attacking people until we the moderators and administrators stopped it.  We didn't kick Dana out, he chose to leave when he refused to follow the rules that apply to everyone on this site. Justin

kyleM:
"But when he decided to attack PA and started a campaign of personal attacks on Marie and Sarah in posts, emails and Pm's he went to far. Everyone knows we wont tolerate personal attacks on ANYONE around here. Your dad is a great guy and a friend to many on this site. But that does not mean that the rules apply any less to him than anyone else. He has called me many times demanding that I ban someone for less, well he insisted on stamping his feet and throwing a tantrum and attacking people until we the moderators and administrators stopped it.  We didn't kick Dana out, he chose to leave when he refused to follow the rules that apply to everyone on this site."

Personal attacks... hrmm funny because in more then one occasion ive had people personally attack my feelings and opinions on this message board, and i was the person to get warned or banned for 30 days for deffending my feelings. Did the people that personally attack me ever get warned or banned... no i doubt it becasue they were mods or long time posters. So i think your web sites rules should be aimed at everyone, not just the people you can discard so easy, and dont tell me that you guys don't, because i know it happens..

Marc St Louis:
I'm sorry Kyle but you are full of it. 

The fact is that people are booted when their attacks on others are of the same caliber as yours and your dads, I know because I have personally booted them.  Something else you don't seem to realize is that whatever happens here is the dominion of PA and because it is their site they are responsible.  Your dad was allowed to organize a Christmas trade here on behalf of PA but he didn't own it, just like all the other events that have taken place here over the years.  It seem to me from the way you and your dad are talking that you didn't start this trade for the benefit of PA or its members but for your own self aggrandizement.  Prove me wrong

Justin Snyder:
Kyle, I know you were warned the first time, then suspended for 30 days the second time because I did it both times. I sent you a PM and told you in person that I did it because I believe you deserve to hear from the person who did it. We didn't advertise it to the whole board because we believe people deserve a certain amount of privacy and respect, just like we haven't advertised to the whole board what was going on with your dad. Your dad kept demanding that I tell him who else has been warned and banned. I will tell you the same thing I told him. I didn't tell him that you were warned or suspended and I wont tell him who else was warned, suspended or banned. It is between PA and the individual. I will however tell you that others have been warned and/or suspended when you were and/or at other times. We enforce the rules across the board as fairly and evenly as we humanly can. Your dad and I have been friends for a long time and I hate to see him go as much or more as I hate to see anyone go, but he made the decision, we only enforce the decision. Now lets move on and let the board discuss archery again not soap operas.  Thanks, Justin

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