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dug out canoe
jamie:
no seats, kneel. better bouancy . 10-14' is about what we do. gonna need enough clay for the initial fire so probably 4 5 gallon buckets. and then some to protect the thin areas.
stickbender:
JTurner;
google Seminole dugout canoe, and go to the "Seminole Indians with dugout canoes, in Everglades National park, 1921. It shows the style, they made. You can see how wide they are, and how many people it held, and the bow and stern style. Personally, I would go at least 15' or more. Is this just going to be for you? Are you planning on putting stuff in it?
Some of the Creek style dugouts, had cross sections that were left in to strengthen the sides. They were sort of seats, not that wide . They were just a section or two, that spanned the width of the canoe, and were lower than the sides, and somewhat " U " shaped. Do you have any marsh areas where you live? You could use it on a hill, in the snow...... ;D Traditionally, these were poled, but they also had some long paddles, they used while standing. Sort of like the African natives in their log canoes. If you use a pole, I might suggest that you use a forked end, or make a hinged " Y " section at the end. That way you don't sink in the mud so much, and when you pull the pole up, the " Y " end closes, so as not to create much drag in the water. Also go to State Library,and Archives of Florida. They have excellent pictures, of dugouts, and the various styles, and different freeboard heights. You can get some great ideas on how they were made. Hope this helps. And good luck. You can cut to length, the log, and then flatten one side for the bottom, and shape it, and and turn it over, and flatten the top, and start to hollow it. Look at the pictures, they have a lot of pictures, that show basically how they were made. The poles were a combination of push pole, with a paddle blade. Take lots of pictures.
Wayne
jcinpc:
heres a few pics of some of my shell artifactsI find here in Florida. These are shell wood cutting tools, They used the busycon shell for the manufactor of the adze.. 1 style would be the whole shell with a notch cut out for the stick to haft and the columnella beveled and the other is the adze cut off the wall of the shell and the bit ground to an angle. Florida has the most aboriginal watercraft found anywhere in the world. A few years back in Newnans lake in Gainesvill during a drought the archs found, after they were alerted, over 80 canoes on 1 end of the lake, archiac to mississipian periods. Very interesting the different styles made.
jturner:
Thanks guys ive been lookin into this and keep comin up with more questions. Will the heat from burning it out keep it from checking all the way threw or what do i have to do to keep it from spliting? I am cutting it down this week but dont want it to split on me should i paint the ends? If it does split clear threw can i seal it with pine pitch or how do i seal it?
jamie:
its gonna check no matter what. even large splits can be fixed with bark and pitch. if you can get cedar bark it makes a great hole filler then cover it in pitch. inner bark from other trees works well too.
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