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New Year Shooting at the Medieval Butts
mullet:
I remember, Jaro, That's when I first came here from PaleoPlanet. I met you over there. It is when the site almost became non-existant, Marc. But what I was going to ask, Rod, is, can you guy's shoot bows in Meets that are not English longbows? It seems that if anybody even mentions a bow that is not in the shape of a walking stick then everybody gets their shorts in a wad.
The 3-D shoots over here are fun. Walk through the woods with 20 targets set out at different distances. Usually set in hunting situations and shootin groups at a fun, leisurely pace. eat lunch and do it again. Then shoot another 20 rounds the next day for a total score and trophy's and auctions and raffle drawings for targets and archery gear.
Are the shoots in England structured different?, because it is hard to tell with the conversation on the Warbow Posts. It sounds like a lot of bickering.
I'm not trying to offend anybody, but I was just curious if you can shoot recurves, horsebows, etc., or if you guy's have stringent rules against that.
Dane:
--- Quote from: Jaro on January 03, 2010, 02:20:47 pm ---Dane, I dont think that warbow shooters are closed comunity, but constant influx of idiots can make people edgy. I recall myslef some 10 years ago when I came to this very exact forum - which at the time was far less politically correct, with questions about bows and was told "f**k o**, read this, this and this and THEN return to ask. There is awfull lot of research and work published in couple of last years on the subject of warbows and certain things have became established fact eg - median weight of bows on MR - which is something which cannot really be much disputed in the light of what replicas in decent wood do. Yet every once a while comes an individual .........
You see where I m comming. Also, there is steady harrasment from a group of people who cannot do it themselves, yet they dont hesitate to have opinion on everything as if they do.
Jaro
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Well, Jaro, I have noticed that certain individuals do like to do the things you suggest. I have always thought the best way to deal with that is to ignore them and they will simply go away. Tempers tend to run high around here, though, and when the right buttons are pushed, the sparks fly. Napoleon was dead wrong when he called England a nation of shopkeepers. :)
I will follow your lead, again, thank you for that, and see what happens. I may even try building a high-poundage yew d bow one day. I have some excellent yew, but am not touching it or even thinking about doing so until I am ready. Wasting it would be criminal.
Dane
Jaro:
Not to speak for the Rod, but he did his own fair deal of 3d shooting with hickory flatbow and I have sold some nice ash flatbows for 3d to england.
Anyway Dane - I have always thought that passive position is actually worst one of all. It does not deters the agresor, it will always only encourage him.
"Napoleon was dead wrong when he called England a nation of shopkeepers." - Churchill on the other side called Itally "the soft underbelly of the europe" - words he lived to regret. - Which only tells us that even great men can be dead wrong sometimes. ;D
J.
Rod:
Eddie,
I would have to check the current rules, but if you are asking where heavy bows could be shot, then as I mentioned earlier, there is nothing in NFAS rules to prevent a heavy bow being shot at instinctively at unmarked distance 3D's as the rules stand.
There is only a prohibition on exceeding 300fps which they are not likely to do.
Issues might forseeably arise from there being objections in the case of unsafe shooting or excessive damage to 3D's, but the former applies to all archers and the latter also to compound bows.
In the BLBS which is specifically intended to preserve lawn archery as it was practised in the 19th and early 20thC, there is a limit on draw-weight of 70lb, I believe.
In GNAS, without checking the rules, I believe it may be the same.
Likewise in EFAA, which is primarily marked distance field shooting.
If you are asking what other styles can be shot, in NFAS unmarked distance field shooting, pretty much what you please, though if there is no class for it you may find yourself shooting in a "superior" bow class since most rules are written to exclude a perceived advantage in equipment, not to exclude what might be perceived as a disadvantage.
A lot of folks shoot for fun without being too competitive, but in all classes there is at least a small competitive element, even in PV (primitive) which only became a class of its own quite recently.
Before this I had shot a primitive bow in a variety of "superior" bow classes.
The only thing, perhaps, that prevents anyone from shooting a heavy bow under the existing rules might be a reluctance to see the scores published.
Which if the case is odd, since many of the better longbow field shooters are not afraid of comparison with other bow classes and in fact sometimes post scores that are closer than might be expected on the day to the winning hi-tech bow.
BLBS is primarily two way shooting, Target and Clout, though under the auspices of Hugh Soar there is a limited amount of heavy bow shooting for distance.
In GNAS which is affiliated to FITA (who do not recognise the Longbow*) the choice of bow styles is more limited, being essentially Olympic recurve, Compound Unlimited, Barebow and the Longbow.
Target shooting is their main interest, with some Field archery, Clout, and rarely Flight and Popinjay.
They also shoot indoors in the winter !
Compound Limited (finger release) may now only be shot in GNAS field archery, no longer inTarget.
EFAA is IFAA affiliated and they tend to shoot paper faces at marked distance set in cleared lanes (and since the IFAA also does not recognise the Longbow*) I tend not to think about them too much.
* The Longbow being what you blokes eccentrically call an ELB. Whereas we call an American longbow an AFB. or sometimes a longbow.
Rod.
Tomahtoe, tomayto, let's call the whole thing off.... ::)
Dane:
--- Quote from: Jaro on January 04, 2010, 08:50:55 am ---Not to speak for the Rod, but he did his own fair deal of 3d shooting with hickory flatbow and I have sold some nice ash flatbows for 3d to england.
Anyway Dane - I have always thought that passive position is actually worst one of all. It does not deters the agresor, it will always only encourage him.
"Napoleon was dead wrong when he called England a nation of shopkeepers." - Churchill on the other side called Itally "the soft underbelly of the europe" - words he lived to regret. - Which only tells us that even great men can be dead wrong sometimes. ;D
J.
Probably the fantastic style of the Italians and their love of life lulled him into forgetting that Italy is from where the Romans sprang :)
Seriously though, if the entire board ignores and shuns troublemakers, they will have no voice and will fade from view, if not as quickly as you like. Folks who thrive on confrontation will drain you and ruin it for everyone else. My opinion, though.
Have a care, and good luck with the new year.
Dane
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