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rudderbows:
So far none have broken on this project. There are 3 more stave's set aside for this.
If I put the tips down on the floor with the belly side down and backside upward, measuring from dead center from the floor to the back of the bamboo it is 3" right on the nose after the bow has been unstrung for over 3 hours. I didn't measure it when it came right off of the tillering tree. Its actually not a tillering tree as most folks would think. its a 11 foot tall wood monstrosity with a thick piece of wood that reaches up 11 feet. Its got a manual boat crank set at the far end. It will soon be replaced with an electric winch good for 440 pounds and an electric switch instead of a hand crank.
Ryan is a smart young man and we have talked about safety and limitations more than once. He has indicated that he knows it is not prudent to push past limits that are unreasonable and unsafe. I have outright told him it is not worth a lifelong injury and he has agreed. . We both believe that if this is done properly he will be able to achieve something. What exactly that achievement will be we do not know. Its OK if he cannot get past his limits. Thats why we are starting on a smaller bow of 130 pounds to 142. 130 is actually a BIG bow and even if he never gets past that bow he did really good. Heck I cant even pull 75 pounds comfortably. I would have to say he has done a tremendous job in listening to Steve and a few others about technique as well as learning from some other You tube video's. Ryan ( I know you are listening ole man) However, he is willing to see what he can do in a safe manner and has assured me that he will practice safety as well as apply himself.
Here is a list of reasons to build this bow. I am sure someone , somewhere has done this before and I am not the first.
1 to learn what the wood does when it is seriously stressed out like that
(The info could be valuable for others wanting to build them as well as for myself)
2 Just plain curiosity
3. I think, I know I can do this
4 why does a man climb a mountain? because it is there
5 just for fun
6 I am Irish and Steve is English.
7 I am near 50 years old
Yewboy:
--- Quote from: rudderbows on February 10, 2010, 11:51:29 pm ---So far none have broken on this project. There are 3 more stave's set aside for this.
If I put the tips down on the floor with the belly side down and backside upward, measuring from dead center from the floor to the back of the bamboo it is 3" right on the nose after the bow has been unstrung for over 3 hours. I didn't measure it when it came right off of the tillering tree. Its actually not a tillering tree as most folks would think. its a 11 foot tall wood monstrosity with a thick piece of wood that reaches up 11 feet. Its got a manual boat crank set at the far end. It will soon be replaced with an electric winch good for 440 pounds and an electric switch instead of a hand crank.
Ryan is a smart young man and we have talked about safety and limitations more than once. He has indicated that he knows it is not prudent to push past limits that are unreasonable and unsafe. I have outright told him it is not worth a lifelong injury and he has agreed. . We both believe that if this is done properly he will be able to achieve something. What exactly that achievement will be we do not know. Its OK if he cannot get past his limits. Thats why we are starting on a smaller bow of 130 pounds to 142. 130 is actually a BIG bow and even if he never gets past that bow he did really good. Heck I cant even pull 75 pounds comfortably. I would have to say he has done a tremendous job in listening to Steve and a few others about technique as well as learning from some other You tube video's. Ryan ( I know you are listening ole man) However, he is willing to see what he can do in a safe manner and has assured me that he will practice safety as well as apply himself.
Here is a list of reasons to build this bow. I am sure someone , somewhere has done this before and I am not the first.
1 to learn what the wood does when it is seriously stressed out like that
(The info could be valuable for others wanting to build them as well as for myself)
2 Just plain curiosity
3. I think, I know I can do this
4 why does a man climb a mountain? because it is there
5 just for fun
6 I am Irish and Steve is English.
7 I am near 50 years old
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All good valid reasons, However I'm not sure what you mean by reason 6.
Cheers
Steve
markinengland:
Rudderbows,
If you're English what on earth are doing over there on the wrong side of the pond with all those strange Americans? ;>)
What you say about the drop in poundage on being worked is interesting. It does apply to lower weight bows and it is to be expected that the percentage may be similar in a heavier bow but the actual drop in pounds is big because it is proportional to a higher draw weight. If the effect is greater on heavier bows they could almost be seen as usefull for one battle or short period of use only and need replacing very quickly once"muzzle velocity" and distance achievable dropped off. I wonder if the large numbers of spare bows taken on campaign during the age of the warbow was due to bows becoming "tired" and not reaching the distance rather than breakage as generally assumed?
Mark in England
rudderbows:
Steve,
Reason number 6 is actually just a little levity there, a mild joke and means nothing. meant with good intention I assure you.
--- Quote from: Yewboy on February 11, 2010, 06:35:14 am ---
--- Quote from: rudderbows on February 10, 2010, 11:51:29 pm ---So far none have broken on this project. There are 3 more stave's set aside for this.
If I put the tips down on the floor with the belly side down and backside upward, measuring from dead center from the floor to the back of the bamboo it is 3" right on the nose after the bow has been unstrung for over 3 hours. I didn't measure it when it came right off of the tillering tree. Its actually not a tillering tree as most folks would think. its a 11 foot tall wood monstrosity with a thick piece of wood that reaches up 11 feet. Its got a manual boat crank set at the far end. It will soon be replaced with an electric winch good for 440 pounds and an electric switch instead of a hand crank.
Ryan is a smart young man and we have talked about safety and limitations more than once. He has indicated that he knows it is not prudent to push past limits that are unreasonable and unsafe. I have outright told him it is not worth a lifelong injury and he has agreed. . We both believe that if this is done properly he will be able to achieve something. What exactly that achievement will be we do not know. Its OK if he cannot get past his limits. Thats why we are starting on a smaller bow of 130 pounds to 142. 130 is actually a BIG bow and even if he never gets past that bow he did really good. Heck I cant even pull 75 pounds comfortably. I would have to say he has done a tremendous job in listening to Steve and a few others about technique as well as learning from some other You tube video's. Ryan ( I know you are listening ole man) However, he is willing to see what he can do in a safe manner and has assured me that he will practice safety as well as apply himself.
Here is a list of reasons to build this bow. I am sure someone , somewhere has done this before and I am not the first.
1 to learn what the wood does when it is seriously stressed out like that
(The info could be valuable for others wanting to build them as well as for myself)
2 Just plain curiosity
3. I think, I know I can do this
4 why does a man climb a mountain? because it is there
5 just for fun
6 I am Irish and Steve is English.
7 I am near 50 years old
--- End quote ---
All good valid reasons, However I'm not sure what you mean by reason 6.
Cheers
Steve
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CraigMBeckett:
Rudderbows ,
Thanks for keeping us informed.
Craig.
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