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half eye:
Diligence,
        I've been shooting stick bows since 1962. I been all through that "good shot" thing and practiced till the skin on fingers was gone but if you are interested in being a good hunter.....not the best shot mind you, but a good hunter then be a good hunter. I'm not being facious....what I mean is learn to hunt, ambush, get real close and when you think your close enough....get even closer.
       Learn all you can about your quarry's anatomy, kill zones etc., study their weaknesses and capitalize on them. Yes you need to shoot well but just as importantly you have to be able to shoot in a groove....are you comfortable with the shot? is the distance right? is there any doubt in your mind about taking the shot? and on and on etc. ad-infinitum.
        Ther aint nothing wrong with hanging with your buds and whistling arrows at a foam target from some un-Godly distance.....but dont confuse that ability with good, ethical hunting. Shooting a live animal in the ass or otherwise wounding one will leave a taste in your mouth that wont ever go away. I wont shoot past 20 yards EVER, and have passed shots at 10 yards because "it didn't feel right". I cant explain it really but to me hunting is in the chase, and I have confidence in my shooting but shooting is the LAST thing you do before the work starts.
       Sorry for rambling but there is a whole other side to archery hunting besides the mechanics of shooting. Well at least for this old man, but to each his own.
half eye

Diligence:
Thanks for the advice folks....I'll just tough it out with the compound guys on their laser range...and break a few arrows and have some fun.  I don't think I mind the tight sight window shots, but I just don't want to be doing that out to 40 yards....seems kind of counter productive to actually getting good at lethal shot placement.

Regarding hunting, I have only ever made one shot (rifle) that I didn't feel was ethical on a whitetail across a clear cut - in the dark....and I was 17.  I'm 39 now and don't intend to make that same mistake again....so thank you for your opinion Half-eye.  I agree.  My reality is that finding time to go hunting, along with all the scouting, etc...will be really tough this year, but I might get out on some "armed hikes" looking for a jackrabbit or two.

El-D....is there always a distance handicap for trad shooters?  the guys I have been shooting with have never mentioned it, but then again, we are indoors at a range and stepping up 10 yards would probably get me accidentally shot in the back of my rump...lol

I guess I need to get a supply of fletching and make up a bunch of arrows, and break them left, right and center until I stop breaking so many....kind of a "that's life ho-hum" attitude.

thanks all,

j

Josh:
Whatever you do just make sure you are having fun.  Life's too short.  Break some arrows and laugh about it.  Learn and have fun at the same time.  I know the more frustrated I get after a bad shot, the worse the next few shots are.   :) 

recurve shooter:
im with everyone els on the breaking arrows thing. finnished my first set ever of boo and cane arrows a week ago. as of now i have four left, cuz i keep shooting my own arrows. kinda makes a feller mad. >:(

but, ya can always make a few more.  ;D

Stoker:
I gotta practice with the wheelie boys indoors too.Just ask if you can drag a target bag to 10yrds..
Most guys are good about it. Theirs a lot of kids that want to shoot closer too.If they are perminent targets make a bag for yourself
Thanks Leroy

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