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sailordad:
i have t oagree wit hGordon,to a point ,on this being a political post,and somewhat religious too.
however i do believe i know the intent he had when he penned it.
it wasnt penned to be neither a politcal post nor a religious one.
but he penned it with the thoughts of what so many thousands had died for to make this country free.
he penned it with thoughts of where this country id going to end up if we as people of this country dont put an end to it now.
i too have thought many times(in recent years)about how this country came to be and where it is headed now.
i to believe that at the pace we are going a new "revolution" isnt going to be far behind.
people dont like to think of this,but it is happening.we are getting farther and farther away from being a free nation.
a free nation is what our forefathers had given up their fortunes and had died for.
we as a people today should be embarrassed for letting our forefathers down.we have let the government control us and put fear in our hearts
when it should be the people controlling the government and putting fear into the hearts of the politicians.

any how i just thought i would put in my $.02 worth in.
and i will add

my head is hung low,my heart is filled with pride and sorrow in rememberance of all that have served and all that have died for this country of ours.
from the first death that started the revolutionary war to the most recent wars in the middle east.
with out these men and women whom have paid the greatest debt of all we would not be able to be here and debate topics like this.
these are the ones that made this country great,these are the ones for which this holiday is for.
so take off that grill apron,put down that beer.fly a flag,fly it with pride,take off your hat,place your right hand on your heart and remember what this holiday is for.
its for honoring all those that have served and are serving but mostly for those that paid the greatest debt of all to show their love of this country.
so lets all quit being so petty on this topic and just remeber all those that deserve our repspect,love and gratitude for what they do and what they have done for us.


to my sons that serve in the greatest navy ever and to al those that serve in all the other branches of the U.S. militaires

THANK YOU VERY MUCH

Gordon:

--- Quote --- I am not political beyond the fact that I vote. That is one of the freedoms that caused us to need to have a Memorial day and many good people gave their lives for this underutilized freedom.
--- End quote ---

If you really believed that Mudd you would not call upon the "shopkeepers, the farmers, the tradesmen and other patriotic citizens of this country" to uprise and overthrow our present "oppressive" (your words) government if they are not successful at voting it out. Wraping yourself in flowerly evocations of our fallen warriors, the freedoms they fought for and God does not change the meaning of your words.

There are many freedoms that our veterans gave their lives for protecting. But I'm certain that using violence to overthrow a democratically elected government was not one of them.

hillbilly61:

--- Quote from: Gordon on May 30, 2010, 11:58:51 am ---
--- Quote --- I am not political beyond the fact that I vote. That is one of the freedoms that caused us to need to have a Memorial day and many good people gave their lives for this underutilized freedom.
--- End quote ---

If you really believed that Mudd you would not call upon the "shopkeepers, the farmers, the tradesmen and other patriotic citizens of this country" to uprise and overthrow our present "oppressive" (your words) government if they are not successful at voting it out. Wraping yourself in flowerly evocations of our fallen warriors, the freedoms they fought for and God does not change the meaning of your words.

--- End quote ---

 I's not a physical uprise that Mudd is talking about. It is a matter of our freedom of voting for the people that will give us our freedoms back. This is just one of the things our men and women served and died for. I too served and every time I hear the National Anthem played, I want to salute instead of puting my hand over my heart, but as long as you aren't in uniform it's not proper. It is very clear to anyone ( at least me) that our nation has turned in the wrong direction.

Gordon:
Hillbilly, Mudd clearly states that if voting fails to defeat the present government an uprising may be necessary. Other than voting, what other kind of "uprising" is available to the masses?

Gordon:
Read in the full context of the post, I think I think there is little doubt about the kind of uprising the author of this post meant. But for the sake of argument I’ll give Mudd the benefit of the doubt.

That said, the characterization of the current government as “oppressive” is an overtly political statement and one that is offensive to at least 50% of the voting population. Our veterans did not fight for the political ideology of one group to the exclusion of others. They fought and died for the freedom for all to express their beliefs and elect a representative government.

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