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okiecountryboy:
--- Quote from: Thwackaddict on September 27, 2010, 04:26:32 pm ---Randy i think you would be surprised,close range ,sufficient energy and small diameter shaft.I'd say it would bury em to the fletching ;) JMO
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Lots of great info...
Thwackaddict
You got that right about penetration. I've got a molle from Halfeye that will put one of my arrows through a dense hay bale and penetrate the 1/4" plywood backing. As you said though....JMO
Ron
JW_Halverson:
I've always had a theory about their style of buffalo hunting. When you are on horseback and pull up side by side with a buffalo, matching it stride for stride, and the two of them are nose and nose going into the stretch what's the most likely thing to happen? I imagine the most likely scenario would be for the buff to reach over and hook that horse putting an abrupt end to the whole intended series of shenanigans.
Now imagine the rider coming up to the flank of the buff, shooting 45 degrees forward in the front of the paunch/back of the rib cage. Good chance of nicking some liver as the arrow passes thru into the pumphouse, without the problem of catching a rib or shoulderblade. And if by chance the arrowdoes not pass out of the rib cage, every stride of that critter causes that arrow shaft to move back and forth in a sawing motion, causing that broadhead to do more and more damage.
Mind you, this is only theory. I have read several accounts of buffalo hunts by mounted natives, and none of the observers ever gave much insight into exactly where/how the arrow was placed for best effect. But if you will all fund my efforts to build a time machine, I am willing to be the second test subject.
mullet:
I agree with you, JW. Shooting through the brisket while staying away from those horns makes a lot of sense to me. And it wouldn't really take one of those 100#, short, "buffalo", bows.
Thwackaddict:
JW Now that you mention it,if you think about that front leg bone on a full stride buff,thats alot of movement and alot of heavy bone movement to compensate For so the quartering slip one behind the ribs only makes sense to me!I'm aint ridin in a time machine with ya but....If you got a Horse i know a guy who has some buffalo >:D we could make like injuns and run em around his farm ;D
JackCrafty:
Hmmm...now that the subject has come around to buffalo hunting, I'll add my two cents. ;D
There's a fellow flintknapper who lives near me that has a large collection of arrow points that he has found over the years. He told me that many of the points were found in groups among buffalo remains. This means, as far as the way the local Indians hunted, that more than one arrow was used to kill a buffalo.
There is also a consensus among "old timers" around here that the lungs were the target. The buffalo would run off with the arrows stuck in it and then die some distance away. The horse allowed easy search and retrieval as well as a platform for shooting arrows.
I don't think any of the buffalo went down immediately from an arrow strike...like we saw in the movie "Dances With Wolves."
Also, if you've ever watched a bull fight, you know that a bull can be distracted....so fighters can stick banderillas in the bull without having to chase the animal. Also, spears are used to strike and weaken the bull.
Undoubtedly, Native Americans knew how to separate a buffalo from the herd, distract it long enough for other hunters to take their shots, and then move on to the next buffalo. When they had shot a number of baffalo, they would then begin looking for the dead and dying ones as the rest of the herd moved off.
OK, that's it. ;D
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