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jeff halfrack:
   Hey   Recurve,,   are  you  using  a  volumetric  measure,,,  or  are  you  weighing  your  powder  charges? this  rifle  shouldn't  hurt when you  shoot?  just  my  two  cents,,  the  new black  powder  equivalents  are  a  god  send!!  no  rotten  egg  smell  the  old  lady  lets  me  clean  the  gun  in  the  house  too  I  hope  I'm  not  breaking  a  rule  but  I  use  (American pionere powder)  but  the  #10  caps  are  dirty!!  Jeff w

recurve shooter:
i use a volume measure. its just the way i shoot that gets my face. right now im waiting to get some minis and some patches, then ima try again. a little preocupied with archery season though lol.  ;D

JW_Halverson:
Knocker has a point about "seasoning" a barrel.  Once upon a time the barrels were forged from black iron "scorps" and the metal was slightly porous like a good cast iron skillet would be even today.  But modern guns are made of hot forged steel, the metal is homogeneous in the extreme and doesn't really season like the older barrels.  I've read articles on black powder barrels being abused far above and beyond what they should undergoe in the hands of a decent gun owner, all this so they could test the various cleaning techniques.  The barrel that got the least pitting was the one that was cleaned with just hot water!!!  The theory was that the water dissolved all the corrosive salts left behind, but did not have the detergent action necessary to remove the waxy/oily components in the lubes. 

He didn't mention it, but I bet he was saying to use the spit patch when you are target shooting and there is less time for the water in the spit to wet down the powder charge and cause the barrel to "ring" with an area of intensely localized rust where the patching rests.  Grease lubes are the only way to go when hunting or leaving a gun loaded more than a few minutes. 

Knocker:
Yes JW, I use spit patches when target shooting and the patch isn't in the barrel longer than 10 minutes.  If I were leaving a gun loaded for anytime at all, I have an old 35mm film cannister (more primitive than digital) full of patches lubed with bore butter.  For me, I use petroleum products to clean my modern firearms, but I like grease or wax products for blackpowder.  Wasn't bear grease one of the most common in the day?

Keith

HickoryBill:
This is my pet smokepole.50 cal. CVA Bobcat. 245 grain powerbelt. I have a woodstock started. The gun will shoot just about anything a put in it. Dropped the doe at 60 yards.

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This doe was shot 3 days later 50 yards running, again dropped in its tracks

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