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Any tree identifiers out there?

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Hillbilly:
Looks like flowering dogwood to me, too. The smaller one is definitely dogwood, hard to tell about the bigger one from the pic. Definitely not persimmon.

mullet:
 If the weather is warm the Dogwoods won't flower down here.

profsaffel:
Thanks for the help. These two trees are so close to one another... perhaps one is a persimmon and the other dogwood?  ;D At least I have it narrowed to those two. If need be, I'll take another better pic or two before I cut them down to get a reaffirmation. Thanks guys.

ken75:
dogwood

Lombard:
Pictures of Dogwood, and a two hundred year old Persimmon.

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