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youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #30 on: November 11, 2010, 08:15:01 pm »
here it is on the tiller pulled at 28 inches

youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #31 on: November 11, 2010, 08:34:20 pm »
Thanks! The bow is pulling a lot less than I wanted to so I was thinking about treating it. However this is a board bow and I think that this is kiln dried wood so would heat treating work or would it make the bow to brittle

Offline gstoneberg

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #32 on: November 11, 2010, 11:09:27 pm »
...if you want more draw weight, start another one :)

Hopefully I can help with that.  Here's the osage stave I split out tonight for him:



90" long, over 2" wide at each end and a little over an inch thick at that little jog in the middle.  Quite straight, but it will need a little bit of straightening to keep the string in the handle.  It has a gentle twist but not bad.  To the center of that jog is 42" from the short end.   If I were making a bow from it I'd make that little curve the handle.  I can either send it as is (assuming I can find or make a box to fit) or cut it in half and splice it at the wide ends, taking out that bend.  Not sure which would be better.  I'm quite sure that'll make a heavy enough elb unless there's some damage under the sapwood I don't see .  I did see at least 2 knots.  Best of all it is so thin it only weighs 12 lbs.

George
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youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #33 on: November 11, 2010, 11:43:02 pm »
Looks like a nice stave George. Might be better to splice them because I'm not sure if I have the skill to work that twist

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #34 on: November 12, 2010, 12:09:55 am »
Now I have a question.  When splicing billets to make an ELB, should I splice in reflex?  I would making a flatbow but not sure what to do here.

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George
St Paul, TX

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #35 on: November 12, 2010, 05:45:43 pm »
The bow and the tiller look great
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youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #36 on: November 19, 2010, 08:48:48 pm »
it broke again.....after some tears and some cursing and saying that i wouldnt make a bow again i decided to have one more go with the osage that george stoneberg is sending me. Red oak is just not working out for me.

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #37 on: November 20, 2010, 10:37:11 am »
Could you post another picture of the break? And also are you backing them?
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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #38 on: November 20, 2010, 11:23:34 pm »
Now that I'm home from hunting I'll get after your stave.  Sorry to hear this one broke.  Do you want me to cut the stave down to length?  I can't remember what you were shooting for again?

George
St Paul, TX

youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #39 on: November 21, 2010, 12:15:32 pm »
I'm going for about 60 pounds at 30" and around 68 to 70" long

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #40 on: November 25, 2010, 01:14:18 pm »
Got a few minutes to work on your bow stave before Thanksgiving dinner this morning.  Here's before and after I chased a growth ring.





Lots of borer damage.  It's good you didn't make this one your first time chasing a growth ring.  I'm going to go down one more ring to get rid of quite a bit of the damage, but will heat bend the bow first.  Then if I discolor that outside ring it'll get removed.  I'd like to make the limbs narrower before I do the bending.  Any borer holes remaining will be filled with sawdust and glued with superglue.

Can anyone give me approximate widths for an osage ELB so I don't make it too narrow?  The stave is about 76" now, once I have the tips aligned with the handle I'll probably shorten it to 72" for shipping.

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George
St Paul, TX

youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #41 on: November 25, 2010, 05:55:03 pm »
1 1/4 at the handle tapering down to 1/2 at the tips

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #42 on: November 27, 2010, 10:32:57 pm »
Sorry, I've been out deer hunting.  I won't go all the way to those dimensions, but it'll bend better if it's thinner.

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George
St Paul, TX

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #43 on: November 28, 2010, 08:16:51 pm »
Nice!
Looks like your shooting technique is very good too  :)

youngbowyer

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Re: Completely new red oak elb
« Reply #44 on: November 28, 2010, 09:18:10 pm »
Thanks!
George once i receive the stave could i round the back so the cross section is more oval like the mary rose bows or would that violate the back since you already the chased the growth ring.