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Flatbows found on the Mary Rose?
nidrinr:
Have to agree. It should be possible for adults to have different meanings without starting to make names and such. No matter what was or was not on the MR, I have plans to make more bows from wytch elm using MR dimensions. I believe w.elm is the whitewood most mentioned if I remember correct.
bow-toxo:
--- Quote from: Jaro on December 16, 2010, 07:11:14 am ---
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Mr. Roth its amusing to see you pedall, but given that you didnt cave-in under Mark Stretton´s and Steve Stratton´s authority on the subject, and babbled your nonsense on and on in older threads I wont loose my time on you, since you cannot do the thing anyway.
" I am not entirely ignorant about Alemannic bows. They are a European exception with a stiff handle similar to Victorian bows, not bending in an arc, and used with ca. 25” arrows"
- They are as unlike as victorian bow as one might imagine. There are no victorian bows with that profile which is exactly the "galeon", unlike the victorian high gothic arch (which is exceptionall by itself) and both the technology and approach to some solutions (handle and tips) are very very different.
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"Mr. Roth its amusing to see you pedall, but given that you didnt cave-in under Mark Stretton´s and Steve Stratton´s authority on the subject, and babbled your nonsense on and on in older threads I wont loose my time on you, since you cannot do the thing anyway."
I think you are referring to the time I avoided making personal attacks against the personal attacks and insults directed against me in BIG RED BLOCK LETTERS. I don’t think personal attacks and insults really belong on here.
Please let me know which is “the thing” that I cannot do and you won’t have to “loose” any more of your valuable time on me.
- "They are as unlike as victorian bow as one might imagine. There are no victorian bows with that profile which is exactly the "galeon", unlike the victorian high gothic arch (which is exceptionall by itself) and both the technology and approach to some solutions (handle and tips) are very very different."
The Alemannic bows, which share the Victorian characteristics of stiff handle and the bend at midlimb, are not “as unlike as victorian bow as one might imagine” My imagination would pick every Nydam and MR bow.as being more unlike Victorian bows.
I agree with you that the idea that the rectangular bows were for crossbows, probably because of the flat bellies, is ridiculous.
Erik
Phil Rees:
--- Quote from: Jaro on December 15, 2010, 10:23:50 am ---
"Two of them are #A807 and #A115"
I dont think those are what an engeneer call square. We are still talking about bows with moderatelly rounded belly. I can ask directly, but I fear that those are a) galeon or very uneven profile b) so called "slab sided" bows - which by many people have been refered wrongly as "square" and off course rebutall
(Btw - quick search shows that even in Journal of society of Archery antiquities these are called "squarish" - which can be lots of shapes.)
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Jaro
The reference numbers you cite (#A807 and #A115) don't correspond to the pictorial examples you give which are #3947 and #3965.
Would you like to clarify the point your trying to make?
ken75:
im curious about this also, yew is not an option for me and white woods is my drug of choice.
one other thing im curious about do you guys get together and build bows ,trade info ,enjoy each others company.....well its a thought anyways !
nidrinr:
I knew I had read it somewhere:
"Secrets of the English War Bow",
page 13, referring to the Mary Rose bows: "..although current archaeology has revealed the presence on board of at least some bows of other wood."
page 17 says something about the 8 more rectangular shaped bows. -I'm not sure how much text I'm allowed to copy from a book, but in general the text says theese are "..significantly more robust and longer than the others..." "...the draw weight of these formidable things has been assassed as significantly greater than the others..." -It is suggested that theese were not hand held weapons.
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