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sagitarius boemoru:
The Longbow should be seen as the 'machine gun' of its age. With maximum effectiveness when used with massed ranks against massed ranks. It is impossible to hit an individual at its max range of 200-300 yards (unless you are very lucky!). It is my understanding and please someone correct me if I am mistaken that training to meet the statutory 220 yards would also involve placing ones arrows on a target 20 yards wide. This is very achievable. When a target is at say point blank (20/50 yards) its not that hard to hit a man-sized target.

- That is again a popular book blable.Think again before producing something like this.
 There was nothing like 20 yards wide target for long marks. Traditional target involves a 6´ tall white board set up on green pasture which is shot at.
A remnant of true medieval shooting si clout. This is exactly the type of discipline we are talking about. While to hit a single man at these distances its unlikely, to hit a small group or horse is very much doable and it does not involves a 20 yards wide spread.

Shooting a dozen of arrows with heavy bow to the 5 yrds circle at maximum range, with one or two deviantshould be just about normal.


Again this is the way I did not want to moderate this thread. I wrote clearly we should not heed any hersay.

If you do the thing and have something to say about it, write, if you only heard something or read in books, dont.

E.G. an input from an experienced clout archer is welcomed, input from somebody who describes accuracy at 30 yrds with target arrowheads is in relation to this equipment and type of archery very much worthless.




Jaro

sagitarius boemoru:
As I said purpose of this thread was not a discussion about "who can hit what with something".

If you cannot do something you always find somebody who can.

But as stated I would very much like to have a set of benchmark targets which would test heavy archers also in accuracy apart from the ability to draw heavy weight.

A single man sized target between 70 and 100 yrds and a 3/4 man group sized target at maximum range (200 yrds+) is my proposition.

To be shot with an arrow at least 3 oz (75 gram).


Jaro

outcaste:
Jaro

If you are refering to myself then I can asure you that I very much do this. Now as I said in my 'blabble' that I may be mistaken with regards to hitting a target 20 yards wide. I was trying to remember some comtemporary text that I had read a while ago!

I am a practising archer who makes his own kit (maybe not the best read!) but  have a practical knowledge of doing this for real (Military/Standatd arrow, Roving and Clout). I do feel that your tone is a little harsh to say the least and not what I would expect from the forum

Outcaste

sagitarius boemoru:
Look. I write things once, then twice, then my tone gets harsh. Yes people complain. Some.
I m just not patient to write all the time the same thing again.

Here we go with your remark about target 20 yards wide - you dont know where you read it, the credibility of such an information is basicaly zero, yet its presented as if it actually had some.
We know both through contemporary record and also by testing that heavy bow kit and archer should be quite capable of much better accuracy even in terms of individual aimed hits, so sanity check says its just off.
Hence "blable".

When I start dispute anything, I attempt for a simple and logic definition. Sudenly a whole lots of people appear who basically dont bring information of any value or a logic insight. They just sloganeer.

I hate it and get pissed off, so expect me to be harsh.

What I expected as discussion to the thema was whatever is viable to set up a set of targets of known dimensions and distance, which everybody could use, chart our progress on internet and evalute what is or what is not possible in terms of heavy bow shooting. Now check the discussion, how many people are actually reffering to the point.

Not interested in hersay, urban legends or squirell shooting.

J.

outcaste:
I do love all these warm and fuzzy moments.

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