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D. Tiller:
Yep! Seen that too. But those tend to be flat on the belly. Maybe they should be called flat belly bows FBB for short. English style round bellies, or English Belly Bows, EBB's for short?  ;D

Seriously though, there is an american flat bow that is based on the English Longbow design but the belly is flat instead of rounded. The round belly and overall length seem to determin an English Warbow.

I really feal that we should not discriminate against people who are unable to buy Yew staves or simmilar ash or elm staves to build a warbow or unable to pull those high weights.  If we are aiming for replicating a historical bow and what it was about thats great and the more power to you. But many of us here are here to enjoy shooting a bow of simmilar design but not high draw weights. We can still learn from these bows too since they teach us the skill necessary to build these bows and shoot them. I bet ya that not all bows built for the common man back in the medeival ages were more than 80#'s draw weight since these would have been made for the common man who stayed on the farm. Childrens bows would have to be made also which pulled less in weight and increased in weight untill they were older in age and could pull a 100#'s or more, or not. Also, hunting bows would have been made on the same basic design but lower in weight. I dont think a cook would like to accept a rabbit or other critter after its been shot with a blunt from a 130# bow. Seems a bit like overkill to me. Overly tenderized rabbit! Or rabbit chunks! MMMM! Its whats for dinner!!!  ;D

David T

sagitarius boemoru:
Ratty - are you that person who tried to impress me on english warbow forum with "english bows meeting their match against composite bows on crusades  blabble"? (And eventuelly pissed me off enough to leave?)

Anyway - its nice you have posted that picture of arrowehads, but an arrow is only drawn to where the shaft ends (meets the socket of arrowhead). You dont pull it over the socket because it ultimatelly damages the bow much. Also I cannot see how an english arrow head could have 4´´ long paralel socket, which would lenghten 28´´ arrowshaft to drawable 32´´.
Think before you post anything.

There is no need to look for complicated definition of english warbow , the style is quite distinctive of itself.

This is preciselly where I didnt wanted to moderate this thread - wars of mices and frogs.

We know how the bow shall look like, it does not require special definitions. My intention was to prevent deteroriation of the topics ultimatelly to the point where a bow with handle appears and its maker will call it "warbow".

(As on known internet site which sells redoak flatbows with linen backings as "beautifull english warbows from 25#-40#".


Jaro

sagitarius boemoru:
  If we are aiming for replicating a historical bow and what it was about thats great and the more power to you. But many of us here are here to enjoy shooting a bow of simmilar design but not high draw weights. We can still learn from these bows too since they teach us the skill necessary to build these bows and shoot them.

1. In which case rename it on longbows forum or whatever
2. Then its not a warbow, technically it does not belong to here
3. How so? How can you learn to make warbows by not making them

Its not discrimination. Warbow is a specialist item. By admiting that, you are not discriminating others. There is a whole other forum dedicated to all sorts of "non warbows" bows.

I really hate, when somebody who does not even occupate himself with the thing enters the discussion and starts to post things he read in first Osprey book he could put hands on or worse on some of popular internet sites.

Things like "Longbow was machinegun of its age"   - which they just take without thinking whatever the paralel really fits or why a british actor writing a book on longbow uses such a paraphrase. Or for change thinking about usage of machine gun (which is quite capable of aimed fire at individual targets.)

We should be criticall. We should admit that once dealing with a special field like e.g. science, everybodys voice just dont have the same weight.
This is not elitism in bad sense of the word.
Its normal.
A person which never shot a warbow, which didnt ever smithed bodkin or fired it upon hard target is ultimatelly less qualified than say Simon Stanley.

To "hear everybodys voice" is internet (e.g.wikipedia) dissease.

It hurts reall work or the research.


(But again nothing againts person which comes to educate himself- that is alright) .

Jaro

SimonUK:
One of the good things about the old warbow forum was all the discussion of historical information. You don't have to be a warbow shooter to contribute in that way.

Second point - where should the aspiring warbow shooters go to learn bowmaking and shooting skills? Do we just practice on our own until we achieve the magic 90 lb mark and then join the forum?

sagitarius boemoru:
If you read carefully what I wrote you find out I didnt wrote no such thing.

There is nothing wrong with asking how to do that or discuss historical fact, but not the way we see it too often and which already started here. Its interesting that people who actually do something do not have the habit to slip into this form.

Discussing historical facts is not sloganeering of popular bonmots.


Jaro

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