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blow gun darts fletched with mikweed fluff, cotton & squirrel
Lee Slikkers:
Wow, excellent work! I have 2 young boys (11 & 8) that were looking over my shoulder as I was mumbling "cooooool" so now it looks like I will have to make up 3 sets so us "kids" can all go out and play when the snow breaks. I'll have to find a sub. for the Cane as we don't have any growing here.
Your skills with the pen/paper are equally as good, great actually!
Do you have a drawing or a demo on how you treated the squirrel tails, mounted them to the dart? I am a falconer and my Hawk kills 40-50 of those a year for me. Mostly the Grey Cat Squirrel like you've shown here (unless that's Fox but it looks like Cat to me) and one of the cool color phases we have here in MI is an all Black one. Would make some really nice looking darts. Are the Sq. tailed darts slowed than the Milkweed fluff (heavier mass possibly?)....would Cattail down )the tops) work?
Amyway, great thread and thanks for sharing.
Pappy:
Sweet,that is very cool. :)
Pappy
swamp monkey:
--- Quote from: Lee Slikkers on February 01, 2011, 03:23:10 pm ---
Your skills with the pen/paper are equally as good, great actually!
Do you have a drawing or a demo on how you treated the squirrel tails, mounted them to the dart? I am a falconer and my Hawk kills 40-50 of those a year for me. Mostly the Grey Cat Squirrel like you've shown here (unless that's Fox but it looks like Cat to me) and one of the cool color phases we have here in MI is an all Black one. Would make some really nice looking darts. Are the Sq. tailed darts slowed than the Milkweed fluff (heavier mass possibly?)....would Cattail down )the tops) work?
Amyway, great thread and thanks for sharing.
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Below is a sketch for how I process the squirrel tails. It is easier to do if the tail (bones, meat etc.) is attached to the body still. To remove the tail I pinch the tail base right in front of the skin. With my other hand on the squirrel body I pull the body away from my pinched fingers. The goal is to make the tail skin come off like a sock. No rips no tears. If using your fingers does not work you might try using a a pair of sticks and use them like your daughter's hair berets. Van Dykes sells a tail skinner that works wonders if you do enough of them. Sometimes a tail will tear at the vertebral joint. This makes getting a firm grip on the tail bone tough. Such times require vise grips or a vise. I love modern devices. The squirrels I have access to are grey squirrels Sciurus carolinensis and fox squirrels Sciurus niger. I know there is a lot of variation in fox squirrels across the US in way of color and patterns. Here in SE MO I would rather skin six greys than one fox squirrel. Especially if I wanted the hide in nice shape. they can be tougher and harder to skin. But that also means the hide will hold up better. I plan to make a squirrel row hide string some day and a fox squirrel is my resource of choice. I am not familiar with a grey cat squirrel but local names are fun all over the US.
If you need anything else please let me know. I am happy to share.
As for cattail down. I have dinked with this for other projects and consider the fluff too short to fletch a BG dart. I also have never heard of any native tribes using it for that purpose. With that said I never tried it. I would enjoy knowing that someone made it work. Besides is gets all over as you deal with it. Not exactly an indoor friendly product. The other fluffs scatter too but nearly so bad.
The milkweed dart is a lot like a cat with it fur on. Kind fluffy. Get em wet and you see how little cat there is under all that fur. My point is they look bulkier than they really are. I have not noticed any speed differences in darts based on fletch but then again I have not paid attention. One day I will have to find a chronograph and see about that. That inspires me! good thinking.
best of luck and post some of those black tail darts if you craft some. That sounds like a cool product.
Lee Slikkers:
Swampmonkey, thanks a ton for the reply and info. I have a few full body black "grey" squirrels in the freezer, I'll see how difficult this method is with a frozen/thawed one. I am sure the "cat" name is a local variance...they are one and the same as your Grey's.
You're art skill are killer, no doubt there! You should find someone that needs an illustrator for a primitive skills book, you'd be a natural.
We don't have any type of River Cane or Boo locally here in MI, Any thought on what a decent substitute would be?
Again, many thanks!
Lee
swamp monkey:
--- Quote from: Lee Slikkers on February 06, 2011, 08:19:14 pm ---Swampmonkey, thanks a ton for the reply and info. I have a few full body black "grey" squirrels in the freezer, I'll see how difficult this method is with a frozen/thawed one. I am sure the "cat" name is a local variance...they are one and the same as your Grey's.
You're art skill are killer, no doubt there! You should find someone that needs an illustrator for a primitive skills book, you'd be a natural.
We don't have any type of River Cane or Boo locally here in MI, Any thought on what a decent substitute would be?
Again, many thanks!
Lee
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Shucks. you are awfully kind. I would jump at the chance to illustrate a PS book! Maybe someday.
As for a cane substitute: If you have an import or decoration store that may be a source for some type of bamboo. It might not be North American river cane but it will work pretty much the same . . . I think. We have a place called Pier One and they carry a lot of exotic interior decoration items. I have found large diameter bamboo. Another source might be a garden center. Bamboo stakes cane be found in some places. It is worth a look.
PA has a trading post. I have not used it myself but I bet skinned, black squirrel tails would be worth some bamboo! I would not mind working out a trade once I find out how much shipping would be on a stick of cane.
It's not real Abo (aboriginal) but a short PVC pipe (longer will sag) or a copper pipe will get you started till you find some stock to work on.
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