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cheap rifles? mosin nagant scout scope rail settup?

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mullet:
  This is just my opinion, but I wouldn't waste my money on those old Eastern Block rifles. SKS before the Clinton ban could be bought for $80, now they are triple and still junk. Mosin Nagant were out gunned in Vietnam by Remington BDL's and Winchester's. You can buy good guns at gun shows for the same prices you by Russian stuff. Ammo is better, also. I wouldn't buy those guns unless I was collecting them for a military collection.
  Also, a lot of that Russian, dirty, smokey ammo is full metal jacket, which is pretty much illegal to hunt with in most states.

recurve shooter:
mullet, yeah the dirty smokey junky corrossive russian surpluss fmj rounds are illeagle, but cheap enough to shoot fifty rounds or so when i go to the range just for fun. and you can find soft nose hunting amo for it, new production, good stuff. but ima look up some of the other rifles these guys suggested and check them out, but if i can ever figure out if the scout scope settup for the mosin is any good, thats probably the rout i'll go.

Dane:
No problem on the info. I can see Mullet is not a fan of Russian stuff. He has a point on SKSs and of course, you gotta extend that to the AKs. AKs are absolute garbage compared to Western rifiles, the bolts bounce around like crazy and fit and finish are sub-par, but for what they were intended for, they do the job and really well.

As for the Mosin's being outgunned in Nam by Remingtons...how did all that end?

I got in an argument at an Armed Forces Day event a few years back with this dude who had a display. Nice guy, but when the conversation led to Russian vs. US and German weapons in WWII, and specifically the Panzer tanks vs. the Soviet T-34s, and which was superior as a battle tank. The guy hated the idea of the superiority of the T-34, but history shows us this is so.

In the end, the Mosin is a fun, very inexpensive weapon that has been pretty much continuously in use in conflicts around the world from the 1890s to today. They are still in use in some places, and probably will be for a long time.  The surplus ammo is not great, but super cheap fun, and investing in reloading equipment or buying really good ammo will improve the performance. They have been proven in many ways, including the world's great Russian and Finnish snipers, who used the Mosin. You can't argue with hundreds of kills guys like Zaytsev produced (over 200), with one Russian sniper racking up 500 kills, and a Finn who scored 505 kills with a Mosin, and he was the highest scoring sniper of any war. One female Red sniper had over 300 kills.

Now, off to have some vodka :) Or at least a microbrew.

Dane

chigger:
 

   I  bought my SkS to throw behind the trucks seat for Coyotes and Varmints, where I would hate to to abuse one of my good rifles like this.I've bought them for 69.95 but not anymore ,I believe the price has proved them,I gave 300.00 for my last one(scoped)It is made close to the AK47 what  is considered the best military rilfle rifle every made,but my opinion would be the M 1 Garand , The Sks has a loose mechanism and the reason you never have one to jam.I bought a new Rem.7400 and it jammed ever time I shot it.To each his own..Imo

mullet:
 Dane;
  Mosins didn't outgun Remingtons or Winchester Model 70's in Vietnam. Also had nothing to do with the outcome. Somebody called off the B-52's.

 For a good 100-150 yard gun I'd buy a good Winchester or Marlin lever action 30-30. Killed an awful lot of big game animals in North America and they have always been cheap.

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