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sailordad:
Pat those are GREAT words of wisdom

Noel, i hope you take Pats words of wisdom to heart and follow them.
like the old saying say "patience is a virtue" and for us bowyers it is also a very important tool.
i have been building bows for three years now.when i first started i was like most and wanted to pump out bow after bow.
after a few failures i realized it is much better to take my time and pay attention to the wood i am working with.


personally i think some of this comes from the generation he has grown up in
seems like this modern generation(my sons included)
they want it and they want it right now
it is what they have come accustomed,and thats wht they expect from life now

sorry to say another old saying is still true to this day,especially in our hobbies
"good things come to those that wait"

it takes me weeks and weeks and weeks to make a bow now,also i have fewer failures now than before
my trade bow im making was begun the day i got my trade persons name
i dont even have it to floor tillrer as of yet,and its been a month already
i figure if i work on it everyday for the next couple of weeks i might have it to floor tiller by then
but i also dont spend hours every night working on it
i only spend about 1-2 hours a day on it
then i stop and give my mind and eyes a rest untill the next day
sometimes it best to stop and wait untill your mind and eyes are fresh again
and only go one step at a time
like Pat said,your already wanting to know what to do for decorating it and its not even a bow yet
when your mind starts to wander like that when your working on it,its time to stop for the day/night
if you continue to work on it and your thinking 10 steps ahead of where your at
thats when you will miss something here or there that could make the differance from a "shooter" to "one for the corner of shame"

take your time,there is definatly a very nice bow in that stave
just be patient and help it come out
after its done and shot in well,then its time to think about decorating it  ;)

just my $.02 worth

good luck

Cameroo:
Great words of wisdom indeed.  These guys have been around :)  My dad always told me that too - Good things come to those who wait. 

In my experience though, I find it very beneficial to be thinking 10 steps ahead.  In fact when building or creating something, I usually go through all the steps in my head before even starting.  This usually saves me from running into dead-ends, and saves me having to drop so many f-bombs :)

I think planning is the first key to a successful project.  And then patience while carrying out that plan comes second.

Don't push that wood too hard!  Tiller slow and be on the lookout for set.  That's your warning flag that you're expecting to much.

RyanY:
How come you guys never give me advice this good! Kidding. But in all seriousness this is book worthy advice. We often think of techniques and tools for making bows but what's being discussed here is the most important part of being a successful bowyer. Being a college student, I can't wait to come home and make a bow. Then when I'm actually in the process of doing it I get so excited that I forget what I'm doing and mess up the bow. This has happened to me on many occasions but I think I'm getting more of a handle on it in my old age  ;).

Noel, take your time and make this a successful bow. Anyone would love to have a stave that great so make sure you put it to good use. If we had a 24 hour news feed where we could constantly see your progress on this bow, you could easily be a mindless robot and the people here could walk you through literally every scrape on this bow. Wait for the advice. Its good stuff.

fishfinder401:
thanks for all the wisdom everyone is passing on, and don't worry, all of the decorating thought were either hours before i started ( mainly based of an impulse i had for a few minutes) or once i was done for the night and looking through some finishes. i defiantly see what you are all saying about patience, and that is something i am trying to wrok on, i actually stopped workingwhen i did becasue i saw myself rushing too much and didn't want to make a mistake
thanks for the help ;D
noel

fishfinder401:
i just realized, what about using one of those mini propane burner/stoves to heat treat the belly, i havent done it before so im not sure if it would be too much or too little
thanks for the help ;D
noel
PS: im not trying to get ahead of myself, just want to make sure i have a plan

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