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Yeomanbowman:
Hello Mark,

--- Quote from: markinengland on October 13, 2007, 04:42:19 pm ---This perhaps explaines why Ascham talked about whip tillering a bow once shot in.
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I'm not sure he was talking about whip tillering, which is a 20C phrase?  From memory he mentions ‘whipping round’, and it's a separate action after shortening and pyking, all post shooting-in.  a common practice seems to be having the bow 'dressed' after it was shot-in but maybe only for private, not livery bows?
Are you going to Sandon Hall?
Cheers,
Jeremy 

sagitarius boemoru:
Ascham also writes about "cunning heatynge" the bow shall get, so here goes the ide they werent aware of benefits of heat treating wood.
The appeareance of symetrically notched nocks do seem to corelate with some things.
On continent its recirving tips on longbows, for any kind of twist, even small one is deadly to recurve. The other seem to be introduction of recreationall archer, means amateur who only does it occassionally for fun...That strangelly also corellates with appearance of glued (backed bows) - and by that I mean the moment where the need to shoot in any situation and weather was no more.

Jaro

D. Tiller:
I still think they were using a loop on one end of the string though. In millitary sittuations it would be much faster to string the bow having one end with a loop. Though, I do think it was a tight fit on the loop and that they may just have lifted the string completly off the tip instead of sliding down the limb to unstring it. Just a bit of suposition on my part but I think it could be an argument for loops.

David T

Yeomanbowman:

--- Quote from: sagitarius boemoru on October 18, 2007, 08:51:42 am ---That strangelly also corellates with appearance of glued (backed bows) - and by that I mean the moment where the need to shoot in any situation and weather was no more.

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Yes, that's a good point Jaro, I'd always assumed that was largely due to good yew becoming scarce in the 16th C.

markinengland:
Jeremy,
when you say "I'm not sure he was talking about whip tillering, which is a 20C phrase?  From memory he mentions ‘whipping round’, and it's a separate action after shortening and pyking, all post shooting-in.  a common practice seems to be having the bow 'dressed' after it was shot-in but maybe only for private, not livery bows?" what do you think he meant then?
When I read that part, as it was talking about "dressing" the bow to make it a fully finished bow suited to the archer it seemed to me that this was talking about fettling the tiller, length, strength and cast of the bow to suit the archer. what does whipping a bow mean? Binding with thread? I am sure there is wording that really does seem to talk about tillering and lighteneing the limbs to get extra cast.
Mark

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