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type 16 war arrow
ChrisD:
Lloyd,
On foot of your last post (as well as a post on another place), a question and a comment.
First the question - how heavy do you think a galling arrow was?
Now the comment. Its about your question of what people should charge who make arrows - I'm assuming Livery arrows is the topic in question. I've just paid about £17.80 per arrow for a bunch of heavyish arrows for messing about with my various bows. They have big fletches, are 33ins long total, and have forged steel heads by Simon Stanley, are made of Poplar (I think) and have horn reinforced self nocks. These are well made arrows weighing between 950 and 1000 grains. I've graded them and there are some differences however, the best three flew in excess of 180 yds into a headwind out of my yew longbow - which to my consternation is giving up the ghost faster than my hairline and is now less than 75 lb at 31 inches (started life at 90@30 - but I weighed it yesterday). There are 3 others which need some attention to get them to fly that well and the remaining 6 are OK but I'd need a slightely heavier bow to get full clout distance with them.
So, £17.80 is what I'm prepared to pay for what I reckon is a pretty well made piece which I expect to perform very well. Add to that, maybe a forged replica head and your own time and attention to get a great finish and consistency, and I think you'd be cheating yourself if it was much less than £30 a go - and if they are really good arrows - a bit more. One day, I'll have the time to do it myself, but at the moment, work and new small child limit me to an average 15 mins a day making bows which is about all I can manage.
Hope that is helpful.
Chris
Lloyd:
I'd expect a galling arrow to come in around 700- 800 grains give or take. I think the BLBS standard arrow is probably a fairly good example of a galling arrow. 36" 3/8 ash runs about 650 - 850 grains. Stick to the lighter end of that and you will end up around 575 at 32". Go with a fairly light head and you will come out around 750 - 850, and a standard arrow is right in the middle of that range.
Thanks for the input on the arrows.
Loki:
--- Quote ---which to my consternation is giving up the ghost faster than my hairline
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;D :D :)
All this talk of radii,cubes and surface area's make my head hurt ???.
i've seen Livery arrows for sale for £20 without the heads on,so twenty pounds plus the price of the head is around the going rate.
If you charge 50-60 bucks an arrow with a hand forged head,its a good deal for the buyer.
Rod:
--- Quote from: Lloyd on June 12, 2007, 10:01:12 pm --- 400 yards is probably a pipe dream, or someone did it once with a 30 MPH tail wind and the world has never forgotten.Pax.
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In a recent conversation with Chris Boyton he told me that Simon Stanley has now shot more than 400 yards with a flighting shaft.
Rod.
ChrisD:
Further to some recent discussions on 'the other site' - is a galling arrow and a flighting shaft the same thing?
I have read of 'galling arrows' 'flighting shafts' and 'Prick(e?)shafts' and have always thought them to be different things.
C
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