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Justin Snyder:
I know this is going to be a touch subject. If it offends you, I apologize now.

When I first started making bows a couple of years ago, I didn't know about this site.  When I found the old site I was able to post pictures and get help, much like a lot of others do.  I posted a couple of bows with what I thought was good tiller. The great guys on this site were helpfull enough to point out areas where I could improve the tiller. This brought my bows to a whole new level. 

Now the touchy part.  Myself and many of the other guys vote for bows in the Bow Of the Month contest based on the quality of the tiller.  Eye candy such as snakes and paint are great, but it is BOW of the month, so we grade the bow first.  This leads me to my request. I for one would like to see the cool MONEY SHOT of you drawing your bow while hanging from your tree stand or however you like.  But I would really like to see a picture of the bow at full draw on the tillering tree, or at least drawn and held straight (not canted) for one picture so I can see the tiller.  If you don't want to post a picture like this, that is fine, it is just my own idea. But I think all of our bows could be improved by a set of fresh eyes. And it would be a lot easier for the fresh eyes to see the tiller if they see it the way you need to while you are tillering.   This would also make it a lot easier to know what we are voting for in BOM. Thanks, Justin

Badger:
Justin, I agree with you, a good tiller shot has prevented me from voting for certain bows in the past just because I really couldnt see the tiller that well, I also like to see a front view along with the other views as well. Steve

medicinewheel:

hi justin!  -  even for myself i now find pictures on the tillertree very informative; it's another aspect to look at the tiller and sometimes i can see things that i didn't see before.
i had that problem you are talking about with the last bow i posted: i had asked volunteers to take pictures of me drawing the bow, twice. but i angled the bow on all the pictures just a little bit, so that the tiller looks strange.
frank

NOMADIC PIRATE:
I agree that a full draw shot should be taken with a strait bow, not canted,...that's what I always do even if it isn't my style of shooting.

However I don't think a tillering tree can compare with the human drawing, gripping hand,  drawing fingers, can't be reproduced by a tree and a scale where the only place I can put the scale hook on the string is nowere near where the nocking poing will finally go, as a matter of fact I belive that a good looking tiller on a tree might even turn out not so good once handled by a human being.

If you really like to look at the bow pointing upwards you can always turn the picture ;D :D

DanaM:
Justin while my bows are not good enuf for contention in the BOM(yet), I will try to remember a tiller tree full draw pic in
the future, but I agree with Manny that the FD profile can be different when hand drawn. As for BOM voting your right
that the tiller has to be good, a bow can be a thing of beauty with all the accessories but if poorly designed or tillered all ya have is eye candy.
But I also think you have to take into account the bowyers experience vs. the finished product. A difficult stave for me could very well be a routine
job for someone else. So who worked harder?
Now I will one up ya and tick alot of folks off I firmly believe you should only be allowed to win BOM
once per year per category. This will allow more people to experience the honor and there would be 12 bowyers per category vieing for Bow of the Year honors.
And before anyone suggests that I'm jealous, let me say that you are wrong I just feel that it is the fair way of doing it.
And I won't apologize in advance for my opinion.

Dana

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