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African Elephant War Bow Questions
Ian.:
If he was the guy with the mullet then ignore it it was total rubbish. There are 170s being shot today the record stands at 200lb
stickbender:
Can't remember if he had a mullet, or not. It was in an archery Magazine quite a few years ago, I can't remember if it was 200# or 220, for sure, but I believe it was 200#. It showed him shooting the bow, and the arrow was like a 1/2 inch thick. I just took it for what the article said. All I know is that he was supposed to be a Native American. I have no idea what particular tribe.
But none the less 200#, is a hell of a bow! Can you imagine if that thing exploded?!!! :o :o
Wayne
JW_Halverson:
I read the bit about the woman hunting the elephant with a bow and wanted to get some more information. So I googled her name. Mistake. Bad mistake.
There are dozens of websites dedicated to (and I am not exaggerating) threatening her life, limb, and safety. The threats are such that they are sufficient to expose the persons who have posted to legal ramifications up to and including felonious prosecution. Those that are content to not threaten her are using the most vile and abusive language towards her. Women spewing the "c" word they themselves consider to be the unspeakable word rolls off their keyboards with practiced ease. Vicious is the word that best describes these people and their violent ravings.
I have never heard the level of malevolent evil from the gun-wackies/kill-em-n-grill-'em crowd and they are supposed to be the blood thirsty murderous ones!!! I guess now more than ever we hunters need to hold our tempers in check, bite our tongues for a moment to regain calm, and speak rationally and calmly, supporting our arguements with facts and relevant research. We'll never win over the radical nuts, but the battle is for the Middle Ground. Act civil, speak with facts, and refrain from name calling and threats....let the middle ground decide which side sounds most reasonable and sane.
Ok, getting off my soapbox now.
As for my choice in bow for hunting elephants...I dunno. Not that it makes a lot of difference because whatever I chose it wouldn't help because by the time I got 12 yds from a bull elephant I would be reduced to a quivering, sobbing, whimpering pile of goo because I have read plenty about what one of these things can do when only mildly peeved, must less actually angry. I've read of elephants spending several days carrying around a human corpse just so they can beat the crap outa it again when they feel like it!!!
stickbender:
Yepher, DE crazies is out there. And they will be the first ones to scream if you were to use the same language, and tirades that they use, on a subject they feel near and dear to. Ah, more chemicals, and GMO for our food please. :P Who knows, with all the crap in the food, the crazies will be the norm, and the norm will be the crazies. I am with you, I don't think I could get anywhere near that close, to an adult Elephant, and even a teen aged one. They can be more devilish than the adults! >:D
Yeah, the power, and speed, and intelligence they possess, is phenomenal to say the least. I read of an account of an African hunter who was hired to cull a rogue Bull Elephant, and he said it was quite smart, and very deadly. They can sneak up on you without making a sound. They are incredibly stealthy when they want to be. The pads of their feet are like huge sneakers..... ::) Sneak, ....sneakers...... ::) ;D Ok, yeah, I would not be a good candidate to cull one of those things, first of all it would be able to smell me quite a distance off. Even the natives would leave me. I would have to have some awful dependable depends! :o ;D :P :P Sounds like the Phenomenally Emotional Tangent Association is at it again, fomenting violence, by spewing their delusional rantings as intelligent discussion. Maybe we could talk a bunch of them into forming a human shield around the Elephants that are to be culled...... ;) 8) 8) Like the Idiot that ran into the bull ring, and got between the bull and the Matador, and the bull, thought, ok, this guy is closer, and took him out, and then went on with the bull fight. The Gene Pool got a little cleaner in the shallow end that day. ;) Or the woman who tried to stop the running of the bulls, and got ripped a new one by a bull. They want peace and harmony among our little animal friends, but will be the first in line to kill a human who actually likes to hunt and fish. It must be the chemicals and GMO's in the food supply..... ::) ;D ;D Must be ;).......it is affecting peoples ability to think rationally, in addition to the other health risks. ;) ;D Or they could just be plain nuts! ;) ::) Anyway, I applaud the the woman for her feat. I sure couldn't do it. If I had the strength to pull that heavy draw bow back, then I have the strength, to carry a .458 Winchester, or .464 A&M magnum, .416 Rigby, etc. ! ;) Then I don't want to shoot an Elephant with one of those either. Not that I have anything against culling an Elephant, I have gotten wimpy in my older years. I don't like shooting my 45-70 at the range either. A shot or two at game, ok, but not much more than that . But one of the big boys, I don't have any desire to shoot, unless I had to. ;) I have shot a 375 H&H mag a few times when I was younger, and it got all the desire to shoot a really big gun out of my system. But to get within 12 yds. of a full grown bull Elephant, and stick it with an arrow!. :o :o I think I would take my chances on smacking a water buffalo in the rear, with a rolled wet towel!! ::)
Wayne
CraigMBeckett:
--- Quote from: heavybow on July 05, 2011, 08:20:35 am ---Howard Hill used a 115# bow. ad the arrows were 41" long.
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You may be correct but I doubt it, if you take a look at the video again and concentrate at about 3 minutes 11 seconds, when HH has just walked up to the kill he has both a the bow and and arrow in this hand, compare the arrow length to the bow. I would suggest the arrow is more like 30 inches than 40.
stickbender,
--- Quote ---Buuuuutttt.....the arrow was not a normal length, arrow......it stated it pierced 31 inches, into the heart, and there was still almost half of the length left sticking out. Though it did not look quite that long in the pictures. Still not six feet. Could be Artistic license on the part of the narrator.
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Its possible that they were talking of an arrow that did penetrate that far which was not necesarily the one you could see protruding from the kill, think of the number of shots HH made and how many shafts you saw in the animal.
Craig.
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