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jamie:
i liked narrow for penetration but a wider head on a deer does more damage in the animal than if you just punched a hole through it. a buddy i hunted with last year was using the simmons land sharks heads. i couldnt believe the damage that head did. there was snow on the ground and it looked like a murder scene. the deer went 30 yards and there was a bllod trail 20' wide the whole way. im for big heads now. peace

MattE:
As Hillbilly stated, the artifacts.stone arrow points, were small and were known by the name, bird points. They were very small points. The points that weighed 80 grains or more were generally atlatl points.Whether this is due to the length of the arrows used or the poundage of the bows being low is up for debate. What is known about the south eastern tribes is that two bows were used ,one for war, 70# to 80#, and one for hunting. 30# to 45#.This leads some to think both type points were used for their bows.The consensus of the archeologist, at the present time, is as Hillbilly stated small points for bows and the larger ones for atlatls. I am still perplexed due to the heavy poundage bows used by tribes for war.such as the Cherrokee and Tuscarora preferred.If anyone has any documented information on this subject, please post it. I am most interested in this subject.     

mullet:
   Matte,One of the best explanation's I've heard is in modern times,Look at how much game has been killed with a 22'rifle.Whether poaching or legaly.Small points could be made quick and easy by any one.It doesn't take much skill to make a small point from a discarded flake quickly.Like buying a $3.50 box of 22's from China-Mart

Coo-wah-chobee:
Hey billy-just came across this post -im late again-maybe i should stop browsing on the board? ok-here goes-my points are made from wash state obsidian that a friend sent me-like 150 lbs of rock from freight co!I make points like mullets -rather long 2.5"longx1"wide.I agree with jamie and others that a wider point does more damage. As far as penetration goes i was taught a trick by on old indian years ago.He happened to be seminole-but as you know seminoles came to florida from the northwest and were originally part of the creek nation-So this was explained to me that the trick comes from the old creek tradition and was kept alive because it made sense.Once point is made GREASE IT with hog lard or deer fat-i know it sounds silly but it WORKS. I have done penetration tests with this system and it shows you get better penetratioin-like much better.OK-you say -but why-glass cutters will tell you to oil or grease the glass cutter to lubricate the carbide wheel so it will roll smoothly! What the real reason is is that the oil lubricates the glass NOT the cutter.I found this out by pestering a glazier friend of mine.So I saw once again that modern technology just proves what was common knowledge 100 or thousands of years ago!Another thing I do is to wrap the sinew in a criss-cross pattern across the head also I use pine pitch with charcoal over to protect from moisture cause its so damp down here and I DEARLY LOVE to hunt in the rain.Pinepitch comes from fla longleaf pine and charcoal from -duh-I forget--haha

Coo-wah-chobee:
hey Mullet-just wanted to compliment you on your stone points-I know this is late just came across the post.Nice worh bob

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