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RabidApache:
I hunt in AZ. Open terrain, cat-claw like brush grabbing at your legs, loose rock, and brittle brush. At the same time hunting quarry (Coues WT, Muleys) so skittish from predation that its TOUGH just to get into 80yds let alone selfbow range. But its possible. I have 4 buck's under my belt 3 with a compound and 1 with a recurve. I'm still trying with my selfbow (57# Mtn.Ash Flattie).
My best method for staying close to the ground is sittin on one leg while crounched down and extending oppposite leg out. I've even used this method out in the open flats before to kinda scoot along ever so slightly for a shot.
Shots out here in SW are usually 30yds or more. I practice from 30-45yds out but plan to shoot 30yds and under. But sometimes when oppurtunity arises I'll take a shot at 35yds if everythings in order, unobscurred and broadside target.
zenmonkeyman:
I'm really enjoying this back and forth, great stories CA! I thought I'd try something last night (at the school gym where our club shoots 2 nights a week) off my back, I held the bow with my palm up, shot off the wrong side and drew 3 fingers but with my palm out instead of in. I forgot that my bow was built such that a natural wiggle cheated the string alignment towards center shot, and far from center shot if shot off the other side of the bow. Well lets just say I was shortly very happy that the steel basketball backboards are as sturdy as they are! I was also very happy about the limited turnout (few witnesses) last night. Not so happy about the arrow, but hey! Now I get to make another one.
Pappy:
;D ;D ;D ;D
Pappy
crooketarrow:
RABID I hunted white tails in 6 states and sika 5 times in JAN down on the EASTERN SHORE after our season closes. I'd kill to hunt COUSE bucks. Although I know were in way different terrain and don't know if this is possable. I set up all my (ground) sites in the winter after our season. And hunt off milk creates. Must have 100's scatter about.
All my shots are close 15 or under depending where I set up.Longest 18 shortest 3 yards. But I sure if you scout you out a few spots where you can set up. Where you can let the buck pass you so he's quartering away. I been busted so many times trying to draw on broad side bucks. Most people would quit.
But I made friend by chance many years ago. I was dragging a buck 1 1/2 ,2 miles from my truck. When I met this old guy on the logging road. He saw my self bow I saw his. We set and talk and by the time we got my buck back to my truck we were friends. He was half IROQOUIS Indian and had been building selfbows for over 50 years. (CROOKETARROW) He couldn't read and could only write a few words. And thats the way he spelled it. Only my first year building bows that was 20 years ago.
He died almost 5 years later 71. He built bows from a kid up but said he was in his teens when he really serious about build bows and hunting with them.. So it you want you could ad a few years to that 50 years if you wanted.
He said this was passed down to him and his people once lived by the.bow really want to draw and not be seen you have to let the deer pass you. I do the same with gobblers WORKS ever time. It's differently all in the set up.
Or do you stalk there, wast of time here. There is one time and thats when the winds howling I put on my ghillie and work standing corn. Peaking each row slowly I arrowed 5 bucks 2 in there beds. If you cut across use the the rows with the wind at your face looking down each row as you go.
If nothing turn a round go back through the same as you just came. Move down 75,100 yards and go again. Bucks bed at all rock breaks, trees anywhere the farmer can't plow up.
I'd think you do a lot of glassing and stalking way to much pressure to do that here.
ZEN never shot off my back but set it done at 2 shoot exposes.
RabidApache:
Great story Crooket. I like that sorta stuff with tradition. I try to replicate my bows/arrows to represent my heritage "Apache"style. I make reed composite arrows and a few others. I collect my materials locally, but with one exception a hickory bow. I got the stave from a friend thru the old indian barter system.
But anyway if ya ever get to hunt coues WT. I tell ya its a challenge to hunt the SW deer let alone cover its rugged terrain. I hunted'em all my life, many kills with a rifle but 0 with a selfbow. Typically out west its spot-stalk. Sit for hours and glass til a buck is spotted. Then develop a game plan and proceed to get BUSTED! ;D One trick I learned from the old timers that hunted with a bow is that they would strip down to nothing but a loin cloth and moccasins. In this way they moved quicker, dead-silent even moving thru brush. It'll tear your legs to shreds and cold but my ancestors were a tough breed. Some of the books I've read about them is amazing!!
The deer behavior out here is unpredicatable since forage is so scarce deer are always moving. One day you'll find'em here next day over the next Mtn. Early season you can sit a waterhole but I have no patience. I'd rather find a snoozen buck in the midday shade and stick him. Once the rut hits its ON. Bucks bird dogging a doe's scent trail is an easy target. I try to move ahead and intersect.
All my bows kills were under 28yds. But I still practice out to 40+yds even 50 sometimes. Long distance practice makes a 20yarder a "chip shot".
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