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Del the cat:
--- Quote from: CraigMBeckett on January 14, 2012, 09:59:12 am ---Lucky you Del.
Do you know the archive number of the bow you show in the photos?
For those Interested can you tell us what it costs to be a patron?
Have you changed your mind about big (in length) bows now as I seem to recall you making some disparaging remarks about them.
Craig.
By the way Del, Happy Birthday.
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Sorry I don't know the actual number of those bows.
I'm currently working on being able to draw a copy of 80A0608, which is one of the shorter/lighter bows. (Hopefully I'll be able to draw it by Sunday and I'll take post some pics). It's 90# at 28" and I've taken it back to 29" on the tiller.
I took the data from 'Weapons of Warre'
Yes indeed, I've modified my views on both horn nocks & the length of heavier bows, mind I still don't like the look of Victorian style longbows of light weight which are being drawn to the chin and yet are a foot taller than the archer.
Information on becoming a patron is on their website http://www.maryrose.org/ however it should be noted the access I was given was above and beyond that extended as part of becoming a patron, which allows acces to the 'extended collection' rather than the actual store rooms.
Del
CraigMBeckett:
--- Quote from: Del the cat on January 14, 2012, 10:24:54 am ---
I'm currently working on being able to draw a copy of 80A0608, which is one of the shorter/lighter bows. (Hopefully I'll be able to draw it by Sunday and I'll take post some pics). It's 90# at 28" and I've taken it back to 29" on the tiller.
I took the data from 'Weapons of Warre'
Del
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How close are your dimensions to those published for 80A0608? I would be interested to know the draw weight at whatever draw length you finally take it to as well as how accurately you copied the original dimensions, in fact can you provide the final dimensions of your bow in the same form as given in weapons of war plus possibly the perimeter at each position?
Craig.
Del the cat:
Done it for the upper limb. It was based on 80A0608 (page 607 Weapons of Warre)
Length ntn 1892mm
figures are position, width, depth
Centre 36.0, 32.55
100 34.6, 32.59
200 33.55, 29.76
400 32.00, 28.34
600 29.60, 27.17
800 24.85, 20.32
900 20.66, 18.92
edge of horn nock 14.9, 14.7
It's built for a guy who wanted 90# at 28".
I've taken it to 29 ~100 and were it not for two big knots on the belly/side I'd feel it was easily ok for 32".
There is a slight pinch on one knot on the belly. I'd estimate it would be about 120 at 32".
It's hard to measure accurately due to paralax and not wanting to hold at full draw whilst messing about.
The Yew was cut early last November by a tree surgeon topping out some old Yew at Audley End House. http://www.english-heritage.org.uk/daysout/properties/audley-end-house-and-gardens/
Hope this is useful.
Have a look at my bowyers diary, I posted a short vid and a still, you can see I'm not quite back to full draw.
I'm hoping to maybe get some better footage tomorrow in the back garden (when Mrs Cat is out ;))
Once I get decent pics, I'll post it here on PA, dunno if I should post in warbows or just bows really...?
While I'm at it, here are the draw weight length figures I took (rather hurriedly), it's fairly linear.
lbs dist "
10, 9.5
20, 11.75
30, 14.2
40, 16.8
50, 19.25
60, 22
80, 24
90, 28
Del
backgardenbowyer:
Del - that is amazing. We look forward to more information and views about the bows. V. interesting to hear about the grain violation on bows of this weight - those old bowyers must have had confidence in their wood and their work.
Hope to see you are Wally's shoot in May if not before
Stan
backgardenbowyer:
p.s. Del - what's your impression of the intended draw length of these bows? I've handled one of the arrows at the museum and although I didn't get to measure it, it was certainly no monster. Given that the skeletons found were on average a few inches smaller than typical heights today I've always been a bit doubtful about 32" + draws as standard and wonder if they were maybe more in the region of 29-30" with the extra bow length a deliberate over build for a military weapon which had to withstand hard service and all sizes of archers.
Any thoughts?
Stan
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