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penetration with stone points
D. Tiller:
JD The only reason we stopped using stone points is that stone is more delicate than steal. With an iron or some type of mettle point if it bends you just pound it back into shape and resharpen it. With stone it breaks and thats it she wrote no more. Stone is as sharp or sharper than steal and thats pretty much a given. When it hits a bone and breaks it just sharpens itself and makes a sharper edge.
Plus steal and any type of mettle points can be made much more quickly than stone points can be. Prety much steal points can be made from sheet mettle with just a snip or a punch and then some sharpenning in much less time than a single stone point can be made.
David T
Justin Snyder:
--- Quote from: D. Tiller on July 31, 2007, 04:41:29 pm ---Plus steal and any type of mettle points can be made much more quickly than stone points can be. Prety much steal points can be made from sheet mettle with just a snip or a punch and then some sharpenning in much less time than a single stone point can be made.
David T
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Depends on the experience level. And that is only if you buy the sheet metal. Justin
1/2primitive:
This is making for an interesting read, I enjoy seeing the pluses and minuses to the stone and metal. It gives me a more balanced view of the subject. Plus encouragement that I could take game with stone. :)
Sean
D. Tiller:
Yep! Sean I know what ya mean. I too will be making stone tipped arrows to hunt with when I get a chance. I just don't get much chance to knapp anymore. Just too little time. Also one of the draw backs in our modern age for flintknapping, no time! If you ever get a chance talk with someone like Steve Allelie of the "Bowyers Bible" he makes these cool little bird points that are supper sharp by the technique I mentioned earlier. The little barbs he puts on them are really cool. He showed me how its done. He puts the notches one the point early before finnishing out the point and then comes back and finnisehes the barbs and the rest of the point. There are a number of other knapper who do simmilar and make some really killer points. In fact that may be the only thing I will be making in the future. Just dont have much use for really big points.
David T
Justin Snyder:
--- Quote from: D. Tiller on July 31, 2007, 04:41:29 pm ---JD The only reason we stopped using stone points is that stone is more delicate than steal. With an iron or some type of mettle point if it bends you just pound it back into shape and resharpen it. With stone it breaks and thats it she wrote no more. Stone is as sharp or sharper than steal and thats pretty much a given. When it hits a bone and breaks it just sharpens itself and makes a sharper edge.
David T
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The main reason most quit using stone is because of ADVERTISING. Steel is not always more resilient. I have seen the vented blades on broadheads shatter when hitting bone. Tempered steel can be quite brittle. Stone is not always sharper. It is only sharper when sharpened good. Justin
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