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Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive:
Just thought I would post this for those it may apply too.   Hope Eddie will chime in i know he shot one a coupl eyears ago and i want to know where he hit it.....    but anyways.  most of you all know I hunt with 60+ pound bows and my stone points and 500-600 grain arrows.  enough I am getting good pass through shots on deer in the last couple years.

  giving some info I have found on shooting a turkey..  twice now I have shot a turkey on the shoulder with stone with a 60+ bow at 10 yards!!!  and the arrow will not penetrate the wing for me.  twice the wing as stopped my screaming arrow cold.   not sure how its so capable of stopping one...  but twice now Ive drilled one square in the shoulder and... nothin...lol    so im sure its possible to sneak one in there and killem, but statistically from my experiences now, Im thinking the wing shot is a bad idea for stone..lol   folks are sendin steel through em there with less pounds than im shooting....  and I have tried 1 each, really sharp serrated point and one non serrated point and both small 70 grainers.  penetration really shouldnt be an issue....so i dont get it.   same set up gave me 3 pass through's on deer in the last 2 years and a hog pass through as well.     anyone else ever bounce one off a turkey?????   Ive bounced a few in years past off deer shoulders....but thats a deer.....lol not a 15-20# bird..lol   guess i have to hold out for a back shot or quartering away hip shot or even head\neck...   just tough enough to get a shot off on an open ground bird when your not using pop-up blinds, without having to wait for him to stand still and offer the "perfect shot"

Pat B:
Ryan, I've never shot a turkey nor have I shot an animal with stone(although I've tryed). A few years ago my wife bought me a bow built by a guy named Vernon Brown, a Peuble Indian from Taos. Vernon used very small stone points for turkey hunting. He said that larger points get hung up on the fearthers but smaller points have an easier time finding their way between them. His reasoning sounded pretty good to me.

Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive:
yeah i have been a fan of the smaller points for sure.  maybe i need to go a little smaller yet on birds..lol  i dunno.  just hard to believe 66# at 10 yards wont punch em through....but getting good results on deer consistently took some time and trial and error.

Pat B:
Maybe a longer but narrower BH would work better. Sort of an Ishi type.

PEARL DRUMS:
I think the problem lies in the fact the bird weighs so little in comparison to the energy stored in the arrow it "pushes" the bird rather than slice through. Eddie said his was a coral point. My best guess is a materila razor sharp and not serrated would be needed. Something that requires less energy to push through or in to.

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