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adb:
Well, the above bow is 78" ntn, 70#@30", is tillered full compass, has no grip, and is shot off the fist. It has a cast of nearly 200 yards with a EWBS standard arrow. So, in my book, it's a warbow. I made it as one, tillered it as one, and sold it as one. It was made for a new warbow shooter, who wanted 'legal' weight, but the ability to draw it properly. IMHO, learning proper form is much more important than jumping into a bow you can't shoot or even bring to full draw.
The 75#@28" maple backed yew bow posted earlier is NOT a warbow. If it was pulled to 30", it would likely break. Even though it meets EWBS minimum draw weight, it's still not a warbow.
If you can't understand the difference, you're missing the point. Do you shoot warbows?
Peter-t123:
--- Quote from: adb on March 30, 2013, 10:38:51 pm ---Well, the above bow is 78" ntn, 70#@30", is tillered full compass, has no grip, and is shot off the fist. It has a cast of nearly 200 yards with a EWBS standard arrow. So, in my book, it's a warbow. I made it as one, tillered it as one, and sold it as one. It was made for a new warbow shooter, who wanted 'legal' weight, but the ability to draw it properly. IMHO, learning proper form is much more important than jumping into a bow you can't shoot or even bring to full draw.
The 75#@28" maple backed yew bow posted earlier is NOT a warbow. If it was pulled to 30", it would likely break. Even though it meets EWBS minimum draw weight, doesn't make it a warbow.
If you can't understand the difference, you're missing the point. Do you shoot warbows?
--- End quote ---
yes i do, and i dont know why you keep mentioning 'legal weight' '70lb' etc, i think you are taking that sentence completely out of context, considering you havent even mentioned the next line which i find strange 'allowance will be made in a new members first year'. you are trying to use that line to claim that the ewbs has said that 70lb is a weight for a bow to be considered a warbow and that isnt what it says at all.
adb:
OK, well if you're not a new member anymore (past your first year) and you're a male between 16 and 60, to shoot in an EWBS event, you need a 70#@32" bow, which is >74", has no grip, is shot off the fist, and which is tillered in a circular fashion. This is, in fact, what the EWBS calls a warbow. I believe the EWBS is trying to recreate martial archery activities associated with the time of the Mary Rose bows, and has decided to call a warbow a warbow according to the criteria they've picked. I agree... I think 70# is a good minimum draw weight. It's just heavy enough to provide decent cast of standard and livery arrows, but not so heavy that it can't be shot with good form. The criteria for an EWBS warbow is there, in plain black & white, for all to see.
But, all you seem to want to do is argue, so you have yourself a great Easter weekend! You don't seem to get the point I'm trying to make, so I'll stop.
Newindian:
I didn't know ewbs was around in the medieval times telling everyone what was and was not a war bow,long bow, etc. Doubtless if we had every bow from that time and area that was used in warfare it would be nearly impossible to classify them biased on anything but their purpose. And I'm sure that if a 40# bow could kill a deer than it could kill a human so why couldn't that be a war bow.
WillS:
Oddly enough, EWBS would allow both of adb's beautiful bows into the "non historical" category. They wouldn't be allowed into the usual warbow category shoots as both are laminated. However the non historical category allows for laminations AND handle grips.
This is why you can't really use EWBS requirements to say "thats a warbow" and "that isn't". Its just one society with one set of rules. I think that as long as the bow is tillered to 32" (in order to give maximum penetrative force to the only war arrows ever found) and its heavy enough to do that then you can call it a warbow.
Just because one ship was found with bows that didn't have handles (at the very end of the warbow's military life) does not mean that's how they were made throughout the whole of history. Yes, certain bows wouldn't be allowed at EWBS shoots today, but nobody can say whether the EWBS would have been laughed off the battlefield if they turned up with what they think are "warbows" only to find that they had completely missed something that the medieval bowyers considered crucial to the construction of the weapon.
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