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Consistent Full Draw Advice?

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Pappy:
johnston this is just my opinion so please don't take it wrong,I think a lot of GFred
and for all he has done for archery but it took me years [still at it] to break the bad habits that the swing draw method helped do for me and many others. I bought his bows and books when I started shooting traditional 30+ years ago and shot that way for at least 10 years.Spent the last 20 years trying to get over it. ;) :) It is a short draw problem looking to happen. jmo. Pat's advice seems to work for me and over the last few years have gotton to where I can hit full draw
before loosing the string most of the time. The swing draw is all about timing with your swing and if the timing is on you can hit a nat in the behind but if it is off you can't hit the wall inside a building plus when hunting unless you are shooting at something running or flying the swing draw has way to much movement for me. Not sure what the problem is but I think that method as you swing you are looking at what you want to hit,you mind tells you you are pointed in the right spot and you turn loose before you hit an anchor. I know I will catch a lot of flak over this but after years of shooting and watching others that use his method I haven't seen very many consistend shooters. I know their are some I just ant seem them and most draw about 22 to 24 inches.  ;) :) :) Get out the popcorn !!!!!!!
   Pappy

Outbackbob48:
Pappys got it. My eyes and brain would be screaming shoot, shoot, an my sub consicous mind would be saying no were not to full draw yet, an when i let loose it was quite a mess. I finally got so now i don't focus on what i want to hit until I reach full draw an then focus on target. This has helped me alot . Like Pat said, bad habits come real easy an leave real hard. Quess I better get some popcorn with  Pappy. ;D ;D  Later Bob

Christian Soldier:
I tried the audible counting of "1,2" and then I'd release just after the '2' left my lips.

 I wasn't really 'focusing' on the accuracy so it was about normal, but I got full draw just about everytime. Which means I have consistent velocity and form so I have the potential to improve substanciallly.

I'll do that every time I go out now till my form is set.  :)

If you or anyone else has any additional advice, I'm always willing to listen.  :)

Thanks!

Pat B:
Don't worry about accuracy for now. Get your form down and your full draw right first. Give yourself a few days of these exercises and you should notice improvement.

johnston:
Aw gee Pappy Mark  Baggett , you got me. I don't actually use the swing draw but since I saw that pic of
you and G. Fred all hugged up I figured I would be all PC  and maybe not get scolded.

I raise a canted bow from whatever position my body assumes relative to the target. If my bow arm can
be fully extended, it is. My draw comes to completion when my thumb knuckle touches my cheek at the
jaw joint and if my mind is empty I let loose.

I may look down the arrow after I raise the bow but I never address the shot with tension on the string.

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