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Rudderbows warbow inquiry- wood type? also, string/arrows [BETTER PICS ADDED!!!]

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nineworlds9:
Yeah, it must be hickory indeed.  So it's a hickory, ipe, hickory bow.  No problem, I'm glad I didn't pay more at the time of sale or I'd be disappointed and upset.  The seller claimed the bow was "around 400 new".  Thankfully I paid FAR less than that for it.  I dunno, 3Rivers sells the bamboo backed ones for 394 so maybe the seller at least wasn't BSing the new price.  I'm just gonna enjoy it for what it is, I've got some proper warbow arrows coming by end of next week.  Thanks for the help guys.

adb:
Did Jim say it was yew, or did the guy you bought it from say it was yew? As soon as some people hear 'warbow', they automatically think 'yew.' The belly wood on that bow is definitely not yew. I doubt it's lemonwood either, as it's very difficult to get in the US. Probably hick/ipe/hick, which is fine. Good thing you didn't pay yew prices for it! Shoot the hell out of it!

Oh yah... for heavy bows (over 60#), I use nothing but FF. B50 is just too stretchy. I can't even brace my warbows with B50.

nineworlds9:
Yeah, I found out today the new arrows are finished and on the way.  String should also be done soon.  Can't wait.

Del the cat:
Just my opinion as I don't do laminates...but
It sounds like a daft combination of woods to me. The core does relatively little work and thus can be a light stable wood. So why is the core a heavy wood that's good in compression? Hickory Maple Ipe would prob be much quicker.
Maybe open it up and laminate some lead sheeting in the middle, that might speed it up >:D
If I had to guess the belly wood I'd say Lemonwood
Del

nineworlds9:
Lol.  I agree...I've been learning about these things and Im also not sure why they'd use ipe in the middle of this bow.  You know based on pics I studied it does look a lot like lemonwood, but I think it's not likely.  There are quite a few bows sold in the UK that I found online that are "lemonwood belly, purple/greenheart core, hickory backed" that look very similar to mine.  Dunno.  Hmmm.

How come UK makers like Bickerstaffe etc. use purpleheart or greenheart as a core? Aren't those woods very similar to ipe? 


Haha, on 3Riversarchery.com where they sell the bamboo backed version of this bow, the ad is quoted as "ipe center lamination for added speed"...Del you'd probably call bollocks on that eh?

Here's what I found on greenmanlongbows.co.uk:

"Another effective and popular configuration in laminated longbows uses a third strip, (known as the core) between the back and belly. Cores are generally no more than 1/4 of an inch thick and often taper towards the bows tips. Cores experience mostly compressive forces and as such can be made from all the woods used for belly's. They can also be made from woods that are characterised by their stiffness and stability such as purpleheart, greenheart, IPE, or osage."

"The reported advantages of using a core strip can be that they act as a buffer between the back and belly, increasing their effectiveness and helping to spread the loads and forces in the finished bow. They also give an amount of stiffness and stability to the bow and in certain cases can reduce the development of string follow. Using multiple cores will impart a higher degree of stiffness to the bow."

Here are two pics of lemonwood and hickory.  Gosh studying this bow its so hard for me to tell.  To me at least, it looks like lemonwood based on the pics I've studied, but as you all have been saying chances are its hickory.  I emailed Jim Boswell directly, maybe he can help.

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