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Practicing with knapped points
Bugtussle:
Great information!! So the take away is get your arrows flying good with field points, practice with them till the season, put on your stone heads... Test, resharpen and put the best ones back for the hunt. Is that accurate?
Pat - You are correct about the mounting of the heads. I had to make the BH notches a little deeper and re-set the heads. They seem to be a lot more secure. They are not the prettiest by far but hopefully they will do the job.
Twisted - Excellent idea about the insulation foam board! When the wind gets up around here, there pieces scattered everywhere. BTW, I am shooting 600-700 grain arrows out of a 57 lbs bow. You had mentioned that you are getting better results out of a little heavier head than my 60's, is that correct? What type of increased performance are you seeing?
Tracy - I almost had three BIG couch cushions this weekend when the folks in my apartment building were moving out. They had thrown out their couch besides the dumpster and by the time I had got back, the City had already hauled it off!
Thanks guys for all the great feedback!
Pat B:
Don't worry about how ugly it is. The deer that it goes through will never see it. ;)
You should be sure that the transition between the shaft and head is gradual and smooth and that you have a good sinew wrap behind the head.
My hunting arrows are between 550gr to 650gr with a few close to 700gr and my hunting bows are between 55# and 60#. At 15 yards it doesn't matter that much as long as the arrow shoots well for you and your hunting bow. We aren't shooting 300fps. Its more like 150fps to 175fps and at the slower speed a heavy arrow(weight forward)should tip toe through a deer before he knows it.
Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive:
--- Quote from: Bugtussle on August 05, 2013, 11:24:48 pm ---Great information!! So the take away is get your arrows flying good with field points, practice with them till the season, put on your stone heads... Test, resharpen and put the best ones back for the hunt. Is that accurate?
yup you got it.
You are using a good poundage bow and nice heavy arrows, you should be just fine. the 60 gr points will work just fine. it doesn't take a whole lot of point to kill a deer as long as it goes through the lungs/heart. It's just being able to have a compromise between width of the point and having a small enough point to get penetration if you hit ribs going in and out, or extra meat..etc... lot of variables come into play when passing an arrow through a deer. For me the small points have gotten me consistently good penetration. Not that I haven't killed deer with larger points, but I haven't consistently gotten out both sides with a 90+ grain point. With the poundage and arrow weight you are using, you have some elbow room on the size of your points. here is what I do..
I don't specifically make one grain/sized point. Instead I make whatever I think looks good. my arrows also don't have all the same grain field point on them either. In the tuning process, I will use 70 , 100 and 125 gr field points to see which ones fly the best. Once the arrows are tuned then I put the heavier points on the arrows with the heavier heads and the light little points on the lighter tipped arrows. I use the diversity of weights to my advantage in tuning rather than a hindrance. I see an article in the making here. I might do an article here soon about tuning primitive arrows. of course it wouldn't run in the magazine for 6-12 months so, so you'll have to settle for my dis organized forum speak...lol
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Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive:
^^^^^ and apparently I still don't know how to use that quote button :o
Bugtussle:
Pat - Thanks for your vote of confidence my friend!!! And I will pay particular attention to the transition... Sometimes after seeing some of the incredible points made by the folks around here, I start to doubt the functionality of my points by their looks alone... This may sound a little weird, but I get a sense of "satisfaction" when I accidentally slice myself open with a knapped point that I am making... It is almost like "positive" feedback that the point is a good one ;D
Twisted - I appreciate the feedback and I definitely like your approach to matching up the heads and shafts! And I think you should write an article since it is an unique perspective on tuning... Also thanks for mentioning that you don't make just one size/weight type of point because my quiver looks like the "isle of misfits" but mine is because of lack of skill where yours are because of choice! :laugh:
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