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No prejudice.......
larrydawg:
My first bow hunt this year ended that way also two bucks sparring 7 yards from my stand in evergreen tree 11point big bodied deer truly buck of a life time. I made the shot ,hard loud Thwack, perfect shot placement, lost him! A lot of blood, found 16 in of my 29 inch arrow. Could not find him looked for two days. Still bummed.
Larrydawg
RyanR:
No matter what equipment you use, if you hunt long enough and shoot at enough game, you will eventually lose one. It just goes with the territory. You just have to learn your equipment and use your best judgement before taking the shot.
Gsulfridge:
I don't subscribe to the same train of thought as some of you guys. To me, shot placement is way more critical than hitting a deer with a .50 cal!! Bigger is not better in my opinion. A .30-06 is more than adequate to kill any deer that ever walked. It's kinda ironic that we are on a primitive forum and hunting with self bows, yet discuss the merits of magnum deer rounds. I'm sorry, but I have witnessed deer killed with everything imaginable, and it didnt matter one bit to the deer what it got smoked with. Poachers kill them with a .22 all the time. My son killed his first two deer as a youth with a .223 single shot, one shot each, right through the vitals. Neither deer ran more than 40 yds. I'm not knocking the bigger calibers, but using a cannon to compensate for poor shooting is not the right approach. On a marginal shot, yes, I would give the edge to the big boys. As an ethical hunter, I think that having the patience to wait for that humane kill shot is key. ;) (OK, Im climbing down from the soap box!)
Marks:
--- Quote from: Gsulfridge on October 23, 2013, 07:49:17 am ---I don't subscribe to the same train of thought as some of you guys. To me, shot placement is way more critical than hitting a deer with a .50 cal!! Bigger is not better in my opinion. A .30-06 is more than adequate to kill any deer that ever walked. It's kinda ironic that we are on a primitive forum and hunting with self bows, yet discuss the merits of magnum deer rounds. I'm sorry, but I have witnessed deer killed with everything imaginable, and it didnt matter one bit to the deer what it got smoked with. Poachers kill them with a .22 all the time. My son killed his first two deer as a youth with a .223 single shot, one shot each, right through the vitals. Neither deer ran more than 40 yds. I'm not knocking the bigger calibers, but using a cannon to compensate for poor shooting is not the right approach. On a marginal shot, yes, I would give the edge to the big boys. As an ethical hunter, I think that having the patience to wait for that humane kill shot is key. ;) (OK, Im climbing down from the soap box!)
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I may be confused but I think everyone agrees with you. It seems the overall consensus is even big broadheads and superfast modern bows with sights shot by well experienced proven hunters can still fail. Then mullet said he likes his .300 mag because that is less likely to happen. Its not that anyone thinks you can't kill with a .223 or one of the smaller calibers. Marginal shots will happen at some point and he feels that on the terrain he hunts that the blood trails over the long run are shorter with his larger caliber. I personally shoot a .270 and I've never lost a deer that I hit with it so I don't have a dog in either race.
I respect your choice and you respect mine. Like the title says.....No prejudice.
Gsulfridge:
Maybe I read into it a lttle too much. This has always been a pet peave of mine when people begrudge smaller, capable rounds in favor of whiz bang magnums when if fact, they should go to the range and become competent shooters before hunting at all. I too, have lost a deer or two bowhunting, but never with a gun. I am very picky about the shot I take and respect the animal too much to just blow its guts out with a magnum with the hopes of it bleeding out. I do respect everyone else's opinion and the choice of caliber is their own to make. I just wanted to emphasize that it is shot placement that kills humanely, not 3000 fps. Hope I didn't ruffle any feathers.
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