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Update on 120# yew warbow - I don't like to complain, but...
WillS:
I am using 16 strands of FF... haha!
Del's suggested to me that I go for Dyna Flight, so I'm gonna make one more 16 strand FF string, and if it doesn't work I'll buy some Dyna.
toomanyknots:
--- Quote from: WillS on December 14, 2013, 11:50:23 am ---Cheers dude. I had to scrap the nocks after all, as for some reason they just didn't work. Copied the MR nocks to the millimeter and the loops kept slipping round to the back. I recut the nocks to normal ones for tillering but they're so mangled now I'll have to pull them off and start again.
As for the bow itself, it's taken 160# on the tiller now with no movement or noise from the repair so that looks good.
Only one small issue remains...Still can't brace it! No matter what I try, the string stretches every single time. It's on the wall as a "no clue what to do, cant even finish it!" display piece. Ridiculous waste but there we go. Maybe I'll drag it along to a EWBS shoot and see if somebody like Joe can shed some light on it. I've never been beaten like this before!
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I thought fast flight and dyna flight were the same hmpe stuff? Shoot, if dyna flight is better and cheaper, than I might move to that than. FF is pretty expensive really. Have you tried an endless loop string with little to no twist? It makes a big difference for me, when comparing a flemish, although when both are broke in it ain't too big of a difference I think. I totally feel the pain of unexplainable string problems though, I have had a bunch of those! :) Do you have a tiller tree? I use my stringer on my tiller tree on bows that are too long for me to brace, I got a notch like at 36" or so for the stringer to slide in, and then I will brace the bow as quick as I can and undo the stringer. It is definitely nerve racking though, I am always thinking the tiller is gonna split and send the string up at my neck or some other chaos is gonna happen, etc. One time I was stringing a heavy bow like that (had to have all my weight on the string), and the string slipped off the nock and my jaw came smack down on the edge of a 2 x 4 that is part of the support of my wooden tiller tree I used to use. That sucks about the nocks, they were looking nice. I have never tried side nocks before, but yours looked quite nice. I guess though, the more you build, the more you learn, so the only thing you can do is keep building.
Marc St Louis:
--- Quote from: WillS on December 14, 2013, 02:53:36 pm ---I am using 16 strands of FF... haha!
Del's suggested to me that I go for Dyna Flight, so I'm gonna make one more 16 strand FF string, and if it doesn't work I'll buy some Dyna.
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Well that is odd. I've used a 12 strand FF on a 150# bow without any problems and without any stretch.
toomanyknots:
--- Quote from: Marc St Louis on December 14, 2013, 05:39:11 pm ---
--- Quote from: WillS on December 14, 2013, 02:53:36 pm ---I am using 16 strands of FF... haha!
Del's suggested to me that I go for Dyna Flight, so I'm gonna make one more 16 strand FF string, and if it doesn't work I'll buy some Dyna.
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Well that is odd. I've used a 12 strand FF on a 150# bow without any problems and without any stretch.
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I've used a 16 strand on a 140# too, no stretch problems at all, it is good stuff really. Are you using a hitch knot? If so, maybe it is slipping?
meanewood:
It's weird when people describe problems that you've had yourself.
I guess we all learn the same way, advise and trial and error.
Newton said 'we see far because we stand on the shoulders of giants'
Ive 'stood' on Marc's and Dels shoulders a few times but nothing beats trial and error with a thick skull like mine!
One tip I can give is when making a heavy bow, make the string first (overlong) and use it as your long string and then adjust to short string and tiller with it. That way it gets fully pre-stretched before final adjustment.
As for side nocks, I use bowyers knots on both ends. It can be a bit tricky un -stringing it but once some of the wax has worn off the knot, it gets easier if you twist it out. I'm of the opinion that side nocks and bowyers knots were made for each other. To use a loop in a side nock or a bowyers knot in an all round nock don't work all that well!
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