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Update on 120# yew warbow - I don't like to complain, but...
meanewood:
Removable side nocks?
It rings a bell, but I can't see why they would be loose!
If they had been loose wouldn't they just fall off and get lost?
Plus if the 'Mary Rose' bow nocks were not glued on, then they probably would have separated from the bows when submerged and the telltale marks on the tips would not be apparent?
What do other guys think about this?
WillS:
It was kinda a joke.
There's basically an old theory doggin' around that the horn nocks were removable, and some guys have made replica MR bows with removable sidenocks. The theory was that the strings were kept attached to the nocks and all coiled up together. When the bows were braced, the nocks were just slipped over the ends. It works in theory - many of the MR bows have identical enough tips for it to work, with even the grooves made by the string in exactly the same place.
It gets harder in practice though - to get the bow bent enough to brace without a stringer at MR weights (150+) is pretty much impossible, and you need the nocks in place to use a stringer....
Just a thought, is all. Have a look at some of Dave Pim's exceptional Italian yew warbows with completely loose, removable sidenocks. I don't think anybody else out there at the moment can match Dave's finesse with replicated MR nocks.
toomanyknots:
--- Quote from: WillS on April 14, 2014, 10:02:41 am ---
Just a thought, is all. Have a look at some of Dave Pim's exceptional Italian yew warbows with completely loose, removable sidenocks. I don't think anybody else out there at the moment can match Dave's finesse with replicated MR nocks.
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I'd love to check out those bows, you don't have a link do you? I can't seem to find anything using google.
WillS:
They're mainly on the EWBS forum, but I know Dave posted a couple of pics of his 110# Italian yew bow with removable nocks somewhere. I'll try and find it.
Here's a pic of his removable nock
And the bow it came from here
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,39839.msg531846.html#msg531846
Sorry I can't find more info/pics. If you become a member of the EWBS you'll have access to the best bows ever made on the forum!
meanewood:
--- Quote from: meanewood on April 14, 2014, 09:21:51 am ---Hi Will
I'll take some pics and post them!
One thing I forgot to mention is how easy it is to get this loop/knot to tighten fully up to the nock. With a heavy bow it was always hard to get the bowyers knot to fully pull tight against the nock so I would file the belly side of the slot to a more acute angle.
The sole surviving nock from the 'Mary Rose' only angles down slightly and this knot slides up easily to suit that shape!
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OK, tried some pics but the camera is not good enough to pick up the details.
I'll try to explain it better and anyone with a side nock and a length of cord can try it out!
The idea is to create a small loop at one end of the cord ( about the same circumference as a pencil)
You can do this with an overhand knot on the bite ( which means fold the cord back on itself and tie the knot into both strands)
It can be hard to get the loop formed small enough but if you adjust it before pulling tight, its easier.
Then you thread the other end of the cord through the loop which creates the sliding loop you put around the nock!
I've also tried a running bowline which works just as well. Which raises the question, why would it be called a Bowline if not for use on a bow!
These knots are easy to tie, just google a knot site and view the simple steps.
I guarantee if you try one of these knots out on your bow with side nocks, you will find it easier to string and unstring and no more slipping of the top bowyers knot.
Still use a bowyers knot on the lower limb to enable adjustment
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