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80" White Elm Warbow Build-along
Cameroo:
Mike, you pretty much described exactly what Del does ;) ;D
That is a smart way to do it! Sounds like it simplifies things quite a bit.
toomanyknots:
--- Quote from: mikekeswick on February 21, 2014, 10:00:21 am ---I have a good little tool for making the fit perfect.
Get a chunk of something hard and drill a hole in with your bit a deep deeper than your finished intended depth of cone. Then get a tenon saw or similar and cut a slot into one side of the cone hole (the full length of it).
Then get a bit of sandpaper, insert it into the slot, pull a bit throught so it touches the other side of the hole.
Push onto your rough shaped cone and rotate. It then sands off the high spots until you have a perfect fit.
Easy peasy!
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What I do is just shove a triangle of sanding belt into the horn itself and rub it on the bow tip to get it close. Than I take the sandpaper out and just rub the horn on the bow tip. The high spots will get rubbed and burnished, and look kinda shiny while the low spots will not get touched. So I will remove the shiny spots, and repeat until the horn fits good with no play. Man, I made some horn nocks for a guy recently. He was surprised that the hole in the horn was not "square". I told his I could not drill a square hole, and that it wouldn't work anyway. (the pictures of them clearly show a round hole anyway). He insisted that he usually buys horn nocks with square holes, from the man who makes horn nocks for 3riversarchery, who he says recently passed away and was his friend. I don't understand though, a horn nock with a square hole would not work? I tried to explain to him that an english longbow is not square. He said he wished I would of drilled the ends in a d-shape, so it would work with a d - cross section. ( :o ) I explained that a d - section bow is still round at the tip.... :( :( :( I made a video for him showing how I put the nocks on, and linked him to del's blog and a thread where I did some horn nocks. He still insisted that the english longbows he made would not work with the nocks because the nocks I sent him were drilled "circularly"... :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
... ;) Ok, I will stop going off topic. I think horn nocks are fun too once you get a hang of em. I use a straight taper, I feel like it doesn't matter too much also though. I think it makes tons of sense that they would of used the natural hole Cameroo, it would save so much production time.
lostarrow:
--- Quote from: toomanyknots on February 21, 2014, 02:31:26 pm ---
--- Quote from: mikekeswick on February 21, 2014, 10:00:21 am ---I have a good little tool for making the fit perfect.
Get a chunk of something hard and drill a hole in with your bit a deep deeper than your finished intended depth of cone. Then get a tenon saw or similar and cut a slot into one side of the cone hole (the full length of it).
Then get a bit of sandpaper, insert it into the slot, pull a bit throught so it touches the other side of the hole.
Push onto your rough shaped cone and rotate. It then sands off the high spots until you have a perfect fit.
Easy peasy!
--- End quote ---
What I do is just shove a triangle of sanding belt into the horn itself and rub it on the bow tip to get it close. Than I take the sandpaper out and just rub the horn on the bow tip. The high spots will get rubbed and burnished, and look kinda shiny while the low spots will not get touched. So I will remove the shiny spots, and repeat until the horn fits good with no play. Man, I made some horn nocks for a guy recently. He was surprised that the hole in the horn was not "square". I told his I could not drill a square hole, and that it wouldn't work anyway. (the pictures of them clearly show a round hole anyway). He insisted that he usually buys horn nocks with square holes, from the man who makes horn nocks for 3riversarchery, who he says recently passed away and was his friend. I don't understand though, a horn nock with a square hole would not work? I tried to explain to him that an english longbow is not square. He said he wished I would of drilled the ends in a d-shape, so it would work with a d - cross section. ( :o ) I explained that a d - section bow is still round at the tip.... :( :( :( I made a video for him showing how I put the nocks on, and linked him to del's blog and a thread where I did some horn nocks. He still insisted that the english longbows he made would not work with the nocks because the nocks I sent him were drilled "circularly"... :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
... ;) Ok, I will stop going off topic. I think horn nocks are fun too once you get a hang of em. I use a straight taper, I feel like it doesn't matter too much also though. I think it makes tons of sense that they would of used the natural hole Cameroo, it would save so much production time.
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I have a lovely tapered reamer that works great on horn and antler I also have a tapered tenon cutter that matches. Just thought I`d throw it into the mix ! ;)
toomanyknots:
--- Quote from: lostarrow on February 21, 2014, 06:53:01 pm ---I have a lovely tapered reamer that works great on horn and antler I also have a tapered tenon cutter that matches. Just thought I`d throw it into the mix ! ;)
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Honestly not trying to go off topic, but can you "ream" a tapered square shaped hole with these in horn? Maybe that was how my guy got his square nocks made? If you want you can send me the answer in a PM, I don't wanna go off topic anymore and distract from Cameroo's outstanding elm warbow build, ;D. Tiller is looking very nice!
Cameroo:
I made my custom spade bit (ground down a 5/8 bit), cut my horns, and drilled them out. Not sure if I should be using these though. There are some visible de-laminations, and I'm not sure how deep they will go. I was going to glue them on and then shape them, but now that I see this, I think I'll do the bulk of the shaping first, in case they turn out to be unusable.
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