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Tudor bodkin forging
ScottRoush:
Thanks for the response.
Yes.. I'm a full time bladesmith and I've made a few bodkins and other points. And now that I'm finishing up a yew warbow I'm thinking about making some again.
I have a guillotine tool.. two dies set up on a moving jaw that I used to use for drawing out stock before getting my press and hammer. I can carve the bodkin shape into those dies. My plan is to just forge a socket with a little meat left for the very point and then just press in the shape.
Another thing I was going to post in a separate thread but so that I don't flood the forum with my inquiries I will ask here... What are the characteristics of the 'flight arrow'? I have an interest in distance shooting with my bow once it's complete and would like an accurate flight arrow. And an aside question.. what exactly was the purpose of these lightweight arrows? I've heard 'range finding'.. but not sure where I heard/read that...
ScottRoush:
So I actually haven't seen the ones for sale or handled any at all. Do you know if they are hollow all the way up the point? If they are then, for me, that pretty much solves how they were made. The dies I'm making would work great for just smashing the shape in with my guillotine. I guess the fact that you say 'lightweight' implies they are hollow for the most part.
--- Quote from: ScottRoush on June 30, 2014, 06:30:39 am ---Thanks for the response.
Yes.. I'm a full time bladesmith and I've made a few bodkins and other points. And now that I'm finishing up a yew warbow I'm thinking about making some again.
I have a guillotine tool.. two dies set up on a moving jaw that I used to use for drawing out stock before getting my press and hammer. I can carve the bodkin shape into those dies. My plan is to just forge a socket with a little meat left for the very point and then just press in the shape.
Another thing I was going to post in a separate thread but so that I don't flood the forum with my inquiries I will ask here... What are the characteristics of the 'flight arrow'? I have an interest in distance shooting with my bow once it's complete and would like an accurate flight arrow. And an aside question.. what exactly was the purpose of these lightweight arrows? I've heard 'range finding'.. but not sure where I heard/read that...
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WillS:
Here are a couple of variations, Scott.
These are made by Milos Lasky Krizan from Slovakia (the guy I usually get to make my points as he's exceptionally talented and very well priced!) and I personally love the look of his Tudor bods. They look very business-like and not overly fancy or fantastical. The Tudor head that was found at Portchester Castle is very similar to these and I think Milos bases his off Mark Stretton's heads anyway. These are hollow all the way through to the tip of the cone.
The other one is a slightly more over-the-top approach. Not sure who makes these, but they're much closer to Simon's bodkin in that video. It's clearly been pressed rather than hammered and the edges simply ground down. These aren't hollow the whole way - the socket stops where the neck is, and then it's solid metal.
Hope this helps a bit?
WillS:
By the way, Milos' heads are generally 9 grams exactly.
WillS:
One more thing...
Here's Mark Stretton holding (on the left) the original genuine Tudor head, found at Portchester Castle and (on the right) his own version of it.
Looking at them now, it's clear that the larger of the two types I posted above (the more fancy one) is actually a lot closer to the original than Milos', but I still personally prefer Milos' work.
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