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Offline IdahoMatt

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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2014, 04:55:25 pm »
Man that thing is coming around nicely Simon.  It's neat to see how people do things differently.  Thanks for doing this buildalong.   :)

Offline Carson (CMB)

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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #16 on: July 16, 2014, 04:59:48 am »
I like the yardstick trick for keeping an eye on your string alignment adjustment.  That sure beats trying to eyeball things through a steam set up and vice. 

Even your weights are classy!  Sure looks nicer than an old bucket full of water. 

Thanks for taking the time to share your build!!
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the mono chord, the initial rune of fine art
The humanities grew out from archery as a flower from a seed
No sooner did the soft, sweet note of the bow-string charm the ear of genius than music was born, and from music came poetry and painting and..." Maurice Thompso

Offline Aaron H

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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #17 on: July 16, 2014, 08:10:45 am »
This is a great build along.  I can't wait to see more.

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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #18 on: July 16, 2014, 10:23:15 am »
You are one heck of a craftsman!

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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #19 on: July 16, 2014, 11:16:49 am »
You are one heck of a craftsman!
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Re: Osage static build (session 2 added)
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2014, 03:44:44 am »
Looks like it's coming along nicely! Couple of questions for ya.
1. How long are your fades now. I too like the looks of longer fades but usually consider 3"-4" long by my standards.
2. Did you seal the handle area or fade before steaming? In my experience not doing so results in many unsightly checks.

Again I love your work and only ask to learn from your ways of doing things. :)

1. they are 6" now
2. no, handle glue up is protected with alu foil. I did not heat the handle - I heat the fade!

I like the yardstick trick for keeping an eye on your string alignment adjustment.  That sure beats trying to eyeball things through a steam set up and vice. 

Even your weights are classy!  Sure looks nicer than an old bucket full of water. 

Thanks for taking the time to share your build!!

Carson, with the yardstick i can do bending exact to what I want. After controlling string alignment with a cord I know how far the string is off center. Next clamp bow in a vice, put on the weight, measure, heat til the exact amount is reached. Very simple.
Yeah my weights are classy, hahah.
Used the water bucket thing before, but know I'm happy I got my hands on some brass cylinders. On one is a leather belt mounted, this prevents slipping on the stave. Very comfortable.

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Bavaria, Germany

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2014, 03:46:29 am »
let's continue with the tips. Here is a pic how it looks now:








reducing the width




glueing on some brownish horn with super glue allows to continue in seconds



some rasping and filing







well, the overlays are shaped only need polishing
I have now rounded the sharp edges on the limb sides, I let them stand as long as possible – this is best guide for an even thickness taper.
I have reduced the with at the levers.
The leftover from these steps was a handful scrapes, forgot to take a pic.

The bow wasn't bent till now, I haven't done any floortiller. I don't like this. Now I bent her over my breast a few inches to get a feel for the drawweight.  Handle resting on the breast, bow horizontal, drawing back both tips. Meanwhile I'm quite good in estimating the weight.
Here is a pic of the reflex the stave has




First I took out a longer string out of my pile and watched the bracing in a mirror (to be able for interruption when needed). You can see at once, when the bow is not in balance – one limb stiffer than the other.
It looked good, so I made a regular string for her, 6 strands of BCY 425X, strengthened with 2x2 dacron pieces (about 6” long).
The first brace looked good and I had to make only a few adjustments here and there. All I scraped of is shown in the pic below, really! Never had this extreme before, this flakes weighs only a few grains. The complete tillering in this case is done in 10 min.
I do not use the tiller tree anymore for tillering, only my drawweight measurements are made here. All tillering is made by looking in a mirror while drawing the bow.




Now I leave it strung over night, to let the wood settle in. So now need for exercising the bow limbs. Next day I will see where adjustments are necessary, but my feel is good

I believe, the most exact layout working creates little tiller work
Simon
Bavaria, Germany

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #22 on: July 18, 2014, 05:59:39 am »
Interresting!!!
It's nice to see that someone else has a similar way to build bows like myself.
Maybe it's because we´re from the same country?
Who knows...
Niedersachsen, Germany

Offline Aaron H

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #23 on: July 18, 2014, 06:33:51 am »
very cool, how thick do you leave your tips whenever you are recurving?

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #24 on: July 18, 2014, 07:17:30 am »
That looks sweet,very nice work as usual,looking forward to seeing it all dolled up. :)
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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #25 on: July 18, 2014, 09:34:31 am »
   sweet, well done. waiting for more.

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Offline IdahoMatt

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #26 on: July 18, 2014, 10:15:01 am »
Looking good Simon. 

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #27 on: July 20, 2014, 06:54:42 am »
Thanks guys, will continue as soon as possible/ find a photographer

very cool, how thick do you leave your tips whenever you are recurving?

Falcon, go to page one 5th pic.

Simon
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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #28 on: July 20, 2014, 09:51:13 am »
Wow I just discovered your post... thanks for sharing...! as a lot of you guys on this fabulous forum!
Thanks again Simson...     ;)

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Re: Osage static build (session 3 added)
« Reply #29 on: July 20, 2014, 10:22:58 am »
I can watch this all day long and still wonder the How question. How do you do that? Simon, Do you think we have the ability and tools and knowledge to build self bows today better than they have ever been built before? And I'm speaking of appearance and performance of the self bow. What do you think? Looking good. Keep up the good work.