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What is this tree?
Pat B:
Can we see the bark?
Jim Davis:
Sorry, the tree is in my sister's woods in Maine and I'm in western Kentucky, so I can't give you a photo of the bark, unless my BIL takes one.
Guys on the Leatherwall are pretty sure it's European buckthorn. Works for me unless a better candidate shows up.
Thanks for looking.
Jim Davis
swamp monkey:
Fellas I can rule out Bumelia genus buckthorns. Their leaf margins are smooth. I can also rule choke cherries in the genus Prunus out. Their fruiting structure extends farther out from the stem and they bear more fruit per structure.
Telling the difference between Carolina buckthorn (Rhamnus Caroliniana) and black chokeberries (Aronia melanocarpa) is tough. Black chokeberries have reddish dots on the upper side of the leaf, along the veins. Carolina buckthorns lack these.
Chokeberries have flowers and thus fruit at the end of the twigs. Buckthorns have them at the axis of the leaves. Your picture has fruit at the joint of hype leaves. While my buckthorns here in Missouri don't tend to have so many fruit my reference says they can have up to 10 per axis.
My vote is Carolina buckthorn based on what you have. Kinda windy answer but I like to let folks know the why and the what.
Griff:
judging by the leaf shape and fruit I'd say hackaberry. least that's what my father called the big tree in front of an old house of mine. the berries were hard as rocks if I remember right.
Pat B:
Its not hackberry.
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