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Founding a new worldwide Primitive flightbow federation?
Marc St Louis:
Keeping the rules true to the Primitive nature is nice but finding top quality natural fiber string is no easy task and I would be inclined towards leniency in this case and allow modern fibers just to attract more participants. The difference in the distance you are going to get if using a FF string versus a high quality linen string is going to be virtually non-existent anyway and your not going to have to worry about the string parting ways with the bow.
avcase:
Marc,
I also wouldn't get hung up on the string material for local shoots where official world record status isn't at stake. However, I would encourage and highlight on the results those who do use a natural string.
I agree that it is possible to come close to matching the performance of a very low grade fast flight string with the best linen, but that is only because we have events that push us to figure out how to accomplish this. I hope we can keep this in place for a long time to come.
Alan
Del the cat:
--- Quote from: avcase on January 28, 2015, 09:34:37 pm ---Marc,
I also wouldn't get hung up on the string material for local shoots where official world record status isn't at stake. However, I would encourage and highlight on the results those who do use a natural string.
I agree that it is possible to come close to matching the performance of a very low grade fast flight string with the best linen, but that is only because we have events that push us to figure out how to accomplish this. I hope we can keep this in place for a long time to come.
Alan
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I've just ordered some single ply hemp yarn :), so I'll do some stuff with natural fibres where I'm willing to risk the bow.
Del
Badger:
One of the main things I would take into consideration is that writng the rules in such a way where we don't change them later. Strings could become a big enough issue with archers as to limit paticipation even more than it is allready limited. It could become an issue where 2 or 3 years later we were wishing we would have given more slack here.
I also like to idea of discouraging the temptation to compare the two flight shooting organizations. Because we will be training officials over the internet without much screening we will never attain official status. Well respected is about the best we can hope for. Allowing synthetic strings will be a clear indicator of a difference between the two of us.
All my practice strings are now made with fast flite blended with linen. I uses 4 strands fast flite and 6 strands linen 7 strand. The weight of the string is where it should be but it doesn't break. I have no performance advantage when testing but I do have a depedable string.
avcase:
Maybe a good compromise is to always report the string material used with the results. I think it will shine a spotlight on those who do use natural materials, but it won't shut out those who haven't mastered them. It isn't as big a deal where world records are not in the mix.
Natural fiber strings would be a good topic on its own. A premium durable linen string for a 50# 62" bow is around 85 grains (fully served with heavily reinforced loops). However, 200+ grains seem more typical for those making heavily waxed Flemish twist strings. A premium modern material string for flight is maybe a little over 30 grains, with most of the weight in the loops.
I haven't found good quality hemp yet. Reeled silk is available, and is the safest and most forgiving. Linen is the stiffest, but has zero tolerance for uneven tension on the strands and doesn't handle low humidity very well.
Alan
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