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Mark Stretton 200lb Guinness World Record blog
WillS:
It's just misunderstanding the documents written back then, really.
To an artist or somebody watching, seeing somebody shoot 32" looks like they're "in the bow" in the sense that the string and bow at full draw are encompassing their whole upper body. The fact that Mark and Joe can shoot around 200lbs without doing anything weird with the nocks proves that anybody can.
As for that vid of Joe shooting, he's not shooting for distance there, so he's not using the rolling loose. Watch the video of him setting a new world record and you'll see him "leap about" then. It's not used for any shooting other than actual distance shooting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MN2jAsE9ics
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTX1kss99_0
Different styles for different goals.
Tree_Ninja:
Those videos prove that it is possible to loose a half dozen arrows, without any weird draw trickery. Fatigue would set in fast I imagine.
Shoulder and back strength is required. I hope starting an old chainsaw is good cross-training.
HoorayHorace:
Well 200lb is amazing, and what a bow too!
What about drawing to the forehead and down? He isn't doing that either, it seems. ???
Just looks like he is drawing a bow like anyone else, but to around 31 inches I'm guessing?
Saw a vid of a guy shooting really heavy bows on youtube. It was really old footage, but he just stood there and drew them like it was nothing. :)
There is another guy on the tube who makes warbow videos, and you can tell that he is massively overbowed. :o
Makes a war grimace each time he draws.
mikekeswick:
Aye me too Del, within a couple of weeks I could draw just over 100# to 31. Mind i'm 35 and have been rock climbing for many years. Although climbing gives you great forearm strength that doesn't help much with drawing a heavy bow. I'm sure with a couple of months dedicated training I could pull significantly heavier. In Adam Karpowzi's book there is a picture of a massive 'double' hornbow....now that is a proper beast! Estimated weight at over 300#.....
The problem I have with the 'rolling loose' is that they seem to hold the bow at full draw for far too long. Put a bow on a tillering tree with a scale. Pull it to full draw and hold it there....what does the scale do.....lose weight. Holding a bow at full draw is NOT going to help distances no matter what 'evidence' i'm shown! How do the modern flight archers who hold the records shoot for distance? How did the Turks get those amazing distances with their flight bows. What do the laws of physics say! If you can add a bit of forward momentum AS the arrow is loosed of course you have added that extra initial velocity to it but it's the holding at full draw.....no don't do it!!! Whereas drawing the bow faster will raise the weight a little.
Del the cat:
--- Quote from: HoorayHorace on January 03, 2015, 03:04:21 pm ---Well 200lb is amazing, and what a bow too!
What about drawing to the forehead and down? He isn't doing that either, it seems. ???
Just looks like he is drawing a bow like anyone else, but to around 31 inches I'm guessing?
Saw a vid of a guy shooting really heavy bows on youtube. It was really old footage, but he just stood there and drew them like it was nothing. :)
There is another guy on the tube who makes warbow videos, and you can tell that he is massively overbowed. :o
Makes a war grimace each time he draws.
--- End quote ---
Ok, drawing to the forehead is a slight exaggeration (e.g for illustrative purposes), but I think Mark Stretton draws to about his eye line and then brings the elbow/forearm/hand down to well below the jaw. Whereas a target style draw would be along the line of lower jaw or just below along a straight line.
Plenty of people look but don't actually see...
I think the individual needs to find what works for them...
I don't really want to dig up all the old arguments/discussions about rolling loose etc. So I'm out.
Del
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