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For Zuma - Uncontrolled overshot versus controlled overshot
Ghost Knapper:
This post as well as another the arguement that Ancienttech is making the below statement he made...
"Also, since it can be shown that overshot can be a heart rending error via one technology, but a well controlled outcome of another technology..."
All that can be deduced by the his experiment is that the knapper (himself) is not proficient using the one technology versus the other in creating his desired outcome.
So what I am learning from all of these long posts is that when I decide to use a different tool during my knapping process I should make sure that my platforms, strike force and angle etc. is appropriate for the material and the tool I am using. Not that if I have a undesired outcome I write the tool/technology off as being inappropriate for creating the desired outcome. I have also created photos like the one posted where the biface gets broken in half due to the force going through the middle. It wasn't the tools/technologies fault, it was mine.
JoJoDapyro:
Only one way to prove the technique. Video. One shot. No editing. So how accurately you can run full width flakes. I'll do the same with direct percussion, with a giant copper bopper. Post the video in a thread, I'll respond with mine. My thought is this. You say that one can't be as accurate with direct percussion as indirect. I say tell that to a carpenter who's hammer is an extension of his arm. It can be done. Let's do this!
JW_Halverson:
How many times do you have to be called out? Outrageous claims require outrageous proofs. You have claimed other sites have censored you and robbed you of a platform (pun intended) for your teaching, and yet here you have been allowed freedom and yet have steadfastly refused that liberty. Frankly, you leave people with but one possible conclusion.
Tower:
Am I wrong I saying that we should just shut up & knap???? That's what we are here for. Good gravy. PA is like family. Let's see the points. ;).
Zuma:
Ben you are broken record. The only way left for you is to is to get a count of
Clovis overshots to prove they are intentional. You would have to have at least
51 percent. You can't do it. You can't demonstrate a 20 percent rate.
It's all just fantasy HYPE!!!! Find another grail (non holy even).
Zuma called out or the last time
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