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Offline sleek

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #15 on: August 22, 2015, 04:11:31 pm »
Good advice above. Of course seeing who is giving it thats an obvious statement.  I do the skewer trick but with a bb instead.
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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #16 on: August 22, 2015, 04:24:51 pm »
No need to drill holes if you use strong tape to hold everything in place until you apply clamping pressure.
I agree with Badger. It's pretty dodge to cut to center anyway on a wood bow and with the powerlam going south it further weakens that potentially bow breaking weakness. The further to center you cut the stiffer your shafts need to be....a 60# bow cut to center for me would need 70# shafts. Good 70# spine wood shafts are hard to find.....
You have nothing to lose tillering it now (if it blows it blows) but personally cutting to center needs an I-beam in my eyes.
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #17 on: August 22, 2015, 04:50:25 pm »
Quote from: Pat B on August 22, 2015, 03:48:35 pm
How wide is your glue up? If narrow enough you shouldn't have any problems with tillering even if the bottom limb is slightly stiffer. That's how you want it anyway.
 Two tips...before doing a glue up drill 2, 1/8" holes through the power lam at the handle and into the boo slightly(not all the way through) and into the belly(not all the way through) so the holes line up with the components at their proper location. Add bamboo skewers or 1/8" dowels and use them as alignment pins so your components won't slip during the glue up. This is a trick Pearlie gave me and it works great.
 The second is never cut into or shape the handle area until the tillering is done. You don't need a shaped handle or tips to tiller a bow.

Pat this is genius I'll remember this. I definitely made a lot of rookie mistakes that could have been avoided
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #18 on: August 22, 2015, 04:52:32 pm »
I have it at a low brace and it hasn't blown up yet, but I'm definitely getting some bend at the fades I'm trying to work out of it
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Offline sleek

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #19 on: August 22, 2015, 05:05:24 pm »
You got a ways to go yet but I bet you can save it.
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Offline PatM

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #20 on: August 22, 2015, 05:14:32 pm »
 Is Gorilla Epoxy just quick curing type stuff? I don't like the long term prospects for this handle for a number of reasons.
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #21 on: August 22, 2015, 05:16:51 pm »
Handle is off im gonna beaf it up some more at the cut out. Ya pat the gorilla epoxy is like a 5 minute set 24 hour cure epoxy
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #22 on: August 22, 2015, 05:21:14 pm »
The handle is a full 1 5/8 inch thick at the arrow pass with this new handle I'm gluing on with tb3. I'll let it sit over night and continue tomorrow. I appreciate any and all feed back.
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Offline sleek

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #23 on: August 22, 2015, 05:26:24 pm »
After you finish tillering cut your arrow rest in. Do not cut as deep. Fill whats left of the old pass with anything you like and call it decorative. Make a wooden plug to fill it.  Do not allow the handle to extend past your power lam. It risks popping off.
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #24 on: August 22, 2015, 05:42:16 pm »
I'm know this is bow would be a whole lot better off sitting in the corner  of shame but I'm gonna stick with it and see what I can come up with. I'll keep yall posted
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Offline bubby

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #25 on: August 22, 2015, 05:54:20 pm »
For future reference on the next bow don't use 5min epoxy on a bow, no bueno
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #26 on: August 22, 2015, 06:34:31 pm »
Recommendations on glue then. I have heard of urac 185 but couldn't find it on amazon. Why not 5 minute epoxy?
Thanks
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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #27 on: August 22, 2015, 07:00:19 pm »
How thick is it between the backing and the belly lam at the arrow pass?
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Offline PatM

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #28 on: August 22, 2015, 07:05:02 pm »
5 minute epoxy is bad for long term strength. TB is not a good choice for a stacked lam handle. Too much creep.
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Offline Aries

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Re: Good intentions.
« Reply #29 on: August 22, 2015, 07:06:54 pm »
The bamboo plus the power lam and belly are Right at 5/8 of a inch total thickness at the arrow pass.  And I have glued that big handle ok top of that now too.
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