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caveman2533:
Round and round we go......

nclonghunter:
LOL....Steve, I agree. There is a clear difference of opinions on the overshot flake.

 I will say I can not yet do it when I want to, but I have done it many times. I do not consider it a mistake when it happens but feel like I did something right to get a flake that travels across the face and thins the point. I wish I could do it when I wanted to but I do not knap for a living and did not grow up around knapping. People that "lived by stone tools" had to have a knowledge or skill set that far surpasses most of us.

I'm going to make some popcorn now...... 8)

Hummingbird Point:
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If I can get someone to hold a camera for me, and the rain clears up, I will try to post a technique that no one has seen.
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I would deeply appreciate that and look forward to whatever information you can provide.

Thanks,

Keith

Zuma:
Well the only evidence posted so far is that overshot IS a mistake. 8)
No one posted even one Clovis point from a stratified site that
showed overshot flaking.  :embarrassed:
No one posted flake counts from any stratified Clovis sites that
contained a large enough number of overshot flakes to even give
 a hint that they were produced intentionally.  :-[
So there you have it.  >:D
Zuma

turbo:
Man, this thread has exploded. I see we're back on the overshot topic again ;)

Let me reiterate (some of) what I've said in the past; there are different types of overshots. The one's I would call a 'mistake' would be the plunging/taking a big bite off the opposite edge (key word being big). The coast to coast flakes are desirable as they feather out just to the opposite edge. (I think I have the terminology correct from the huge PP thread on this topic. I've been meaning to revisit that thread). Then there are blending flakes from the opposite edge toward the center, and if blended well look like overshots.

I think even Zuma would agree that a lot of Clovis bifaces, etc. exhibit long/bold percussion (whether indirect or not) scars. Some other/more recent cultures did too but not in the same way. Yes, I did work in a lithics lab during college and no, that does not make me an expert.

"That being said, if we are discussing hammerstone tech, I believe that most all overshots are accidental.  If we are discussing billet tech, I think that overshots is difficult to achieve - AS NOTED BY BRADLEY.  If we are discussing tine-based "pitching tool" tech, I think that regular flaking, coast to coast flaking, and overshot, is all fairly easy to achieve."

I have to agree w/ most of this. I've been studying bison horn/indirect for a few months and have been getting fairly consistent coast to coast flakes. I'm finding, as Marty told me, the correct inward and support, not to mention platform prep, will achieve longer flakes.

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