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Ancient? Tine based Technnique?

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iowabow:
Photo 9 and 10 show a platform without material above it . Also the hinge on the left and right show punch failure as well as the bottom middle flake hit high on the platform creates a large creator. This is very critical but I want to see most of the flakes with this technique terminating  beyond center long before we get to this preform stage.

turbo:
Very cool, haven't seen these pics before, that's similar to what I had in my mind he was doing, where did you find them? Either way, I don't see the other thread so I'm guessing things got dramatic while I was at work. I wish he could've done what you just did. I'm sure he has lots to share.

Dalton Knapper:
Good post. The pictures are self-explanatory and I like the way you arranged them. I believe all of these techniques were or could have been used by native peoples. Some of them I have read about in historical accounts or have read about in discussions with other knappers. Regardless of all that, thanks every much for the post. It is always good to be exposed to new or varied ideas that further the science of knapping.

Again, kudos on a great post.

As a side note, I believe that effective thinning rather than outre passe was the overall goal of the paleo indian knappers. They needed thin points to hunt with mere spears. I am sure these methods provided that ability and offered better control over the process once it was mastered. The best method to thin a point is to consistently detach flakes that pass the center of the biface. These techniques seem to point to possible methods of achieving that goal.

Sasquatch:
That is a good post., very educational. I use indirect I like the power and accuracy of the method. I'm not big on overshots. They always mess up my symmetry.

Hummingbird Point:
Okay, I guess I'm the dumb kid in the back of the classroom because I don't follow. The series of photos up to the wood punch and mallet appear to just show the same basic "peg" or "vertical" punch system Ben mentioned years ago and it now in use (usually on top of the leg, instead of in the palm) by lots of knappers, with plenty of videos out there about that type of method.

How is the longer, curved tool shown later used?  How is it struck?  How is the stone held/supported?  Ben said this was  new method he came up with in the past year, different than what he was doing before. 

Again, sorry if I am missing the obvious.

Keith

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