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nclonghunter:
This is something similar to a chess game, are we to "checkmate" yet???

I just hate I have a lot more interest in knapping than chess.... :(

Hummingbird Point:
Ben,

I really am trying to understand, but this makes no sense.  By your own admission, your previous work was "85-90% wrong" and you spent 4 years of relentless experimentation only to find your previous thinking was largely wrong.  That is what you are saying, isn't it?  So basically your earlier critics were mostly right?  Back a few years ago you were adamant that everyone was knapping the wrong way and needed to use small antler cylinders as straight punches, but now you are saying that is wrong?  I'm not asking in a sarcastic, or snippy way, I honestly don't follow.

Regardless though, if all that happened back then, and by your own admission this is a new idea from less than a year ago, what does one have to do with the other? You seem upset that people ignore the historical evidence, but perhaps that is partly because guys like you come along and misinterpret the historical evidence, lead a bunch of us down the wrong path and then, knowing you were "85-90% wrong", refusing to correct the interpretation.  You said in a previous exchange you wanted to make flint knapping "relevant again" but how does one person working in isolation accomplish that?  Again, serious questions, not at all meant to be snippy.

Lyman says this is like a chess game.  Not so.  Chess is played in the open where both the players and spectators can clearly watch every move.  This is a poker game where one guy claims to have the winning hand but refuses to put his cards on the table. 

I fold.

Keith

GlisGlis:
every time I read posts of this kind i think about a good conference held by writer Michael Crichton on "speculation " topic
Some part of it can be found in the prologue of "state of fear" book. Very good reading.

Roosters fight apart I really like to read AncientTech theorys (even if I dont have the knowledge to say if they're good or not).
Wish I had a small part of his technique and like alot the pictures documentation.

If only the debate could stay a little colder...

Zuma:

--- Quote from: GlisGlis on December 02, 2015, 05:21:29 pm ---If only the debate could stay a little colder...

--- End quote ---

LOL can't get cooler than this 8)
I don't even need an opinion >:D

Overshooting the ice: the role of experimental archaeology in ...
https://experimentalarchaeology.wordOvershooting the ice: the role of experimental archaeology in ...
https://experimentalarchaeology.wordpress.com/.../overshooting-the-ice-the-...

Mar 3, 2014 ... An example of an experimental overshot flake removal produced by MetinEren ( image from Eren et al. 2013). Over the Ice map. In recent years ...



Eren et al’s results suggest that overshot flakes are by products of a general biface thinning technique and in and of themselves are not very reliable or optimal at thinning bifaces. This conclusion seems to suggest that Solutrean and Clovis bifaces were produced using similar, simple, biface thinning techniques that resulted in occasional,accidental, overshot flakes. The article also contains a discussion of the existing archaeological evidence for overshot flaking in Clovis assemblages, not much, and the lack of comparable data in Solutrean assemblages.
press.com/.../overshooting-the-ice-the-...

mullet:
I'd just like to see some pictures of different flakes and rocks. And didn't have to read through this crap to make sure everybody was playing nicely.

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